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    Default Re: nigel benn on roy jones

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    Kessler, no way, he is so underrated on here. Without being able to spar or hit the bags, Kessler still gave Calzaghe one hell of a fight. Kessler is on their level.

    Also watch Toney in his prime then get back to me. Maybe you haven't seen his middleweight or SMW stuff in awhile.

    Benn and Eubanks didn't want to come over to the states and still not get a 50/50 split. People conveniently priced themselves out of a fights with Roy JOnes Jr.

    Also to ICB, I am not sure if Roy could stop Eubanks or not, but I would be pretty sure he could hurt Eubanks, He's hurt guys with the best chins in the business like Merqui Sosa, Malinga, Castro, even James Toney he hurt to the body at one point, Reggie Johnson, Virgill Hill(a big cruiserweight now)".

    Kessler didnt spar or hit the bags prior to the Calzaghe fight??

    I think you will find he did plenty of sparring and i know for a fact and there is footage knocking about of him sparring Peter Haymar and Brian Mcgee leading upto the fight.
    He didn't spar for the last month because of hand injuries, nor could he seriously do bag work. I am going by what his camp said. I can't see him lying because he took the loss pretty well.
    Well considering there is footage on the internet off him sparring Peter Haymor and Brian Mcgee i think you will find it was a crock of shit, Kessler was injured within the last 10 days off camp, when most camps are finishing sparring.

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    Default Re: nigel benn on roy jones

    everyone sure does have super hindsight when talking about roy vs benn..when back then, roy jones super motivated, undefeated, and prime, stops a wide open benn inside of six rounds..but since roy got knocked out some seven to eight years after the fact,

    i guess it would make sense that he would have been kayoed then too
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    Default Re: nigel benn on roy jones

    This was an era when some of the big fights never got made - glad those days are gone

    Nigel Benn was the first fighter I ever truly got behind and I would be on edge and nervous for him from the opening bell. He was a class act and a true warrior but you knew one punch could change it. Will never forget Galvano tagging him with about 6 seconds to go in their rematch , thank gid it was that late !


    I did love and get nervous for Frank Bruno too - but only for his life cos I knew he was crap, Benn was in a different league as a fighter.

    RJJ v Benn would have been very very interesting. Jones would have been favourite but Nigel would have had a very good chance and I don't think RJJ wanted any part of him. I would favour Jones 60-40 but would not have been surprised if Benn had stopped him in the later rounds.
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    Default Re: nigel benn on roy jones

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    This was an era when some of the big fights never got made - glad those days are gone

    Nigel Benn was the first fighter I ever truly got behind and I would be on edge and nervous for him from the opening bell. He was a class act and a true warrior but you knew one punch could change it. Will never forget Galvano tagging him with about 6 seconds to go in their rematch , thank gid it was that late !


    I did love and get nervous for Frank Bruno too - but only for his life cos I knew he was crap, Benn was in a different league as a fighter.

    RJJ v Benn would have been very very interesting. Jones would have been favourite but Nigel would have had a very good chance and I don't think RJJ wanted any part of him. I would favour Jones 60-40 but would not have been surprised if Benn had stopped him in the later rounds.

    I just dont see how a prime benn would be able to cope with a prime jones.

    Jones wasnt just a great fighter back then...he was the absoloute MAN. there wasnt a p4p list because it was accepted throughout the world that jones was by an absoloute mile the best fighter from every division.

    Benn would of walked on to so many shots i genuinely believe even with benns rock solid chin it wouldnt of gone beyond 6!!
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    Default Re: nigel benn on roy jones

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    everyone sure does have super hindsight when talking about roy vs benn..when back then, roy jones super motivated, undefeated, and prime, stops a wide open benn inside of six rounds..but since roy got knocked out some seven to eight years after the fact,

    i guess it would make sense that he would have been kayoed then too
    Nah,what happened years later has little too do with the 'what ifs' and possibilitys at that time in each guys career.Up to that point in Jones career in 95',I was pretty much saying the exact same thing as today concerning a Benn fight while watching Jones fight flimsy alphabet ranked showcase fights and after Toney victory & listening to Larry Merchant call his KO of Byrd "the most exciting 1st round KO in boxing since Mike Tyson over Michael Spinks"....

    That fight was there to be had.And saying and assuming a crushing victory over Benn is in no way as impressive as Jones actually doing it in the ring.Benn wanted it....Jones did not.

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    Default Re: nigel benn on roy jones

    steve collins wanted it as well

    eubank i am not so sure (but sure he wouldnt of turned the money down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
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    everyone sure does have super hindsight when talking about roy vs benn..when back then, roy jones super motivated, undefeated, and prime, stops a wide open benn inside of six rounds..but since roy got knocked out some seven to eight years after the fact,

    i guess it would make sense that he would have been kayoed then too
    Nah,what happened years later has little too do with the 'what ifs' and possibilitys at that time in each guys career.Up to that point in Jones career in 95',I was pretty much saying the exact same thing as today concerning a Benn fight while watching Jones fight flimsy alphabet ranked showcase fights and after Toney victory & listening to Larry Merchant call his KO of Byrd "the most exciting 1st round KO in boxing since Mike Tyson over Michael Spinks"....

    That fight was there to be had.And saying and assuming a crushing victory over Benn is in no way as impressive as Jones actually doing it in the ring.Benn wanted it....Jones did not.
    none of them really wanted it...benn eubank, collins, DM, JC, none of them really wanted to face 90s jones....and if benn had fought jones after fighting G-MAN he would have been in the same state has G-MAN.
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    Default Re: nigel benn on roy jones

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    everyone sure does have super hindsight when talking about roy vs benn..when back then, roy jones super motivated, undefeated, and prime, stops a wide open benn inside of six rounds..but since roy got knocked out some seven to eight years after the fact,

    i guess it would make sense that he would have been kayoed then too
    Nah,what happened years later has little too do with the 'what ifs' and possibilitys at that time in each guys career.Up to that point in Jones career in 95',I was pretty much saying the exact same thing as today concerning a Benn fight while watching Jones fight flimsy alphabet ranked showcase fights and after Toney victory & listening to Larry Merchant call his KO of Byrd "the most exciting 1st round KO in boxing since Mike Tyson over Michael Spinks"....

    That fight was there to be had.And saying and assuming a crushing victory over Benn is in no way as impressive as Jones actually doing it in the ring.Benn wanted it....Jones did not.
    none of them really wanted it...benn eubank, collins, DM, JC, none of them really wanted to face 90s jones....and if benn had fought jones after fighting G-MAN he would have been in the same state has G-MAN.
    Says who you? Collins wanted it badly, i know Benn was ready to fight him but you couldnt negotiate with Jones Jnr, he was more or less impossible.

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    Default Re: nigel benn on roy jones

    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
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    Nah,what happened years later has little too do with the 'what ifs' and possibilitys at that time in each guys career.Up to that point in Jones career in 95',I was pretty much saying the exact same thing as today concerning a Benn fight while watching Jones fight flimsy alphabet ranked showcase fights and after Toney victory & listening to Larry Merchant call his KO of Byrd "the most exciting 1st round KO in boxing since Mike Tyson over Michael Spinks"....

    That fight was there to be had.And saying and assuming a crushing victory over Benn is in no way as impressive as Jones actually doing it in the ring.Benn wanted it....Jones did not.
    none of them really wanted it...benn eubank, collins, DM, JC, none of them really wanted to face 90s jones....and if benn had fought jones after fighting G-MAN he would have been in the same state has G-MAN.
    Says who you? Collins wanted it badly, i know Benn was ready to fight him but you couldnt negotiate with Jones Jnr, he was more or less impossible.
    says who you? Their actions say it, it was very clear that jones wasn't leaving the states following the olympics, besides Jones was the recognized p4p best fighter throughout the mid/late 90's certainly the best from 160-174...they should have flown to the states to prove they "wanted it" and just like in this interview with benn, there's one where jones claims all them where offered seven figures and none of them took it.
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    Default Re: nigel benn on roy jones

    By the time Collins wanted to fight Jones he was after a big pay day and was effectively avoiding fighting Galzaghe.
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    Default Re: nigel benn on roy jones

    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
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    none of them really wanted it...benn eubank, collins, DM, JC, none of them really wanted to face 90s jones....and if benn had fought jones after fighting G-MAN he would have been in the same state has G-MAN.
    Says who you? Collins wanted it badly, i know Benn was ready to fight him but you couldnt negotiate with Jones Jnr, he was more or less impossible.
    says who you? Their actions say it, it was very clear that jones wasn't leaving the states following the olympics, besides Jones was the recognized p4p best fighter throughout the mid/late 90's certainly the best from 160-174...they should have flown to the states to prove they "wanted it" and just like in this interview with benn, there's one where jones claims all them where offered seven figures and none of them took it.
    There actions?? How about RJJ actions? What a fucking stupid excuse he wasnt prepared to leave the States because of the Olympics, well that just shows what sort of champion he is, european fighters are seen as bums for not travelling but the American fighters dont travel and its ok? Please, he got screwed in the fucking Olympics in 1988 for the gold medal so that gives him an excuse no to travel?? Imagine that was the excuse someone like Calzaghe or Benn or Eubank used, my god we would never here the end of it, but because hes from America its ok??

    Thats not how it works my friend, America 80% of the time is where the fights are but not always, and RJJ missed out on some big fightes between 1995-2002, but obviously all the other guys fault nothing to do with Roy, no cant be RJJ fault , the man cant do no wrong. Like i said previously RJJ was a nightmare to negotiate with just ask Clinton woods

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