Another PR vs RP

[josef4334]

ive seen mayol fight once or twice.. this fight will depend on where calderon is at his career.. if he has started to descend from the top then it will be a good shot for mayol.. otherwise.. L #3 for mayol..

[ElTerribleMorales]

"IF he wants to be a great"? WTF are you talking about? He's already in the top 10 p4p list. He went up in weight and beat the champ at the higher division (Hugo Cazares), not once, but twice. He's undefeated, and has not come close to being defeated. He's considered one of the better pure boxers in the world today. What do you mean IF he wants to be a great? ?

he's beaten everyone put ahead of him CLEARLY and also he's no spring chicken, the man is 34 yrs old, something you don't see too often at that weight, there are rumors that he might move up in weight by the end of the year

Not clearly (see my previous post Barrera & Cazares), never fought the top guy at 105. Cazares is the best he's done & I'm sorry but one opponent is not good enough for HOF imo

IMO he beat Barrera and by a good margin, Cazares I was a bit close cause of the KD, but Cazares II was all Calderon, he easily outboxed him, and back to the Barrera fight, don't forget that he went to Barrera's backyard to give the fight

[TitoFan]

he's beaten everyone put ahead of him CLEARLY and also he's no spring chicken, the man is 34 yrs old, something you don't see too often at that weight, there are rumors that he might move up in weight by the end of the year

Not clearly (see my previous post Barrera & Cazares), never fought the top guy at 105. Cazares is the best he's done & I'm sorry but one opponent is not good enough for HOF imo

IMO he beat Barrera and by a good margin, Cazares I was a bit close cause of the KD, but Cazares II was all Calderon, he easily outboxed him, and back to the Barrera fight, don't forget that he went to Barrera's backyard to give the fight

The thing about Cazares is... not only did Ivan fight the champ at a higher weight and beat him, but Cazares is the much bigger man. At 105, a jump in division tends to be more noticeable than at 160 or 168. I saw Calderon-Cazares II in person, and it was astounding to see how much bigger Cazares was. IMO, Ivan deserves all the credit in the world for those wins.

[Galaxy]

Not clearly (see my previous post Barrera & Cazares), never fought the top guy at 105. Cazares is the best he's done & I'm sorry but one opponent is not good enough for HOF imo

IMO he beat Barrera and by a good margin, Cazares I was a bit close cause of the KD, but Cazares II was all Calderon, he easily outboxed him, and back to the Barrera fight, don't forget that he went to Barrera's backyard to give the fight

The thing about Cazares is... not only did Ivan fight the champ at a higher weight and beat him, but Cazares is the much bigger man. At 105, a jump in division tends to be more noticeable than at 160 or 168. I saw Calderon-Cazares II in person, and it was astounding to see how much bigger Cazares was. IMO, Ivan deserves all the credit in the world for those wins.

Totally agree & as I said he's one of my favorite guys, but some people thought he lost the 1st Cazares clash & the 2nd although Calderon boxed brilliantly was inconclusive.

As I said in an earlier post Cazares is the best he's fought (one many thought he lost, the other inconclusive) imo his record is not HOF worthy yet as beating one top fighter (the only guy at the top of a division that Calderon has fought) is not enough, but put a win over Viloria & Gonzalez on there & that changes!

[TitoFan]

IMO he beat Barrera and by a good margin, Cazares I was a bit close cause of the KD, but Cazares II was all Calderon, he easily outboxed him, and back to the Barrera fight, don't forget that he went to Barrera's backyard to give the fight

The thing about Cazares is... not only did Ivan fight the champ at a higher weight and beat him, but Cazares is the much bigger man. At 105, a jump in division tends to be more noticeable than at 160 or 168. I saw Calderon-Cazares II in person, and it was astounding to see how much bigger Cazares was. IMO, Ivan deserves all the credit in the world for those wins.

Totally agree & as I said he's one of my favorite guys, but some people thought he lost the 1st Cazares clash & the 2nd although Calderon boxed brilliantly was inconclusive.

As I said in an earlier post Cazares is the best he's fought (one many thought he lost, the other inconclusive) imo his record is not HOF worthy yet as beating one top fighter (the only guy at the top of a division that Calderon has fought) is not enough, but put a win over Viloria & Gonzalez on there & that changes!

I see your point, but to be fair there's less "household" names in the very low weights than at the more popular weights, such as WW and MW. It's rare to find the fighter ("Finito" Lopez is one) that can transcend being in the very low weights, and make people notice enough to warrant HOF consideration. That being said, Calderon has a bit more boxing left in him. Hopefully he'll tackle some of these big names you've mentioned.

[Galaxy]

Calderon's skills & the fact that he's remained unbeaten with minimal punching power will go along way towards achieving entrance into the hall, but a couple extra top names will enhance those chances!

[KKisser]

mayol is a live underdog here. he's heavy handed and has good boxing skills and speed. calderon is elusive and would be very hard to find but doesn't have much pop in his punches. if rodel could get a few good licks in he might able to steal this one with a stoppage. he must feel very motivated for this fight coz i think he won't get another opportunity after this.

[ElTerribleMorales]

mayol is a live underdog here. he's heavy handed and has good boxing skills and speed. calderon is elusive and would be very hard to find but doesn't have much pop in his punches. if rodel could get a few good licks in he might able to steal this one with a stoppage. he must feel very motivated for this fight coz i think he won't get another opportunity after this.

and on that note i pick Calderon to win a UD of 118-110 at the very least

[TitoFan]

mayol is a live underdog here. he's heavy handed and has good boxing skills and speed. calderon is elusive and would be very hard to find but doesn't have much pop in his punches. if rodel could get a few good licks in he might able to steal this one with a stoppage. he must feel very motivated for this fight coz i think he won't get another opportunity after this.

and on that note i pick Calderon to win a UD of 118-110 at the very least

and I'll second that pick.

[KKisser]

mayol is a live underdog here. he's heavy handed and has good boxing skills and speed. calderon is elusive and would be very hard to find but doesn't have much pop in his punches. if rodel could get a few good licks in he might able to steal this one with a stoppage. he must feel very motivated for this fight coz i think he won't get another opportunity after this.

and on that note i pick Calderon to win a UD of 118-110 at the very least

and I'll second that pick.

whereas i pick mayol. lol

[:::PSL:::]

Ivan Calderon Wants Brian Viloria After Mayol Bout

Junior flyweight champ Ivan Calderon is happy to finally end the longest inactivity of his career. He returns on June 13 at New York's Madison Square Garden on the undercard to Cotto-Clottey. He faces Filipino fighter Rodel Mayol. Calderon has not fought since last August's rematch with Hugo Cazares. Calderon suffered a bad cut in the fight, which required 43 stitches to close and kept him out of the ring for a while.

Calderon plans to take the fight to Mayol in the early rounds. He doesn't want to fall behind in case his cut opens up.

"There was a moment of frustration because I had a date (May 23), I started to train hard, but Cesar Canchila lost. Then it changed to June 6, but without knowing the opponent, my motivation dropped, but knowing at last there is a opponent, and officially a date, my motivation returns. What I hope happens now is there is nothing like an injury or something like that," Calderon told El Nuevo Dia .

"It was the longest downtime in my career and the most frustrating period as the clock runs against me. I am already 34 years old. I'm fine and I don't have any problems. I can not fight with fear of opening a wound but, if anything, I'm going to go out and win the early rounds to take the advantage on the cards if something happen."

Calderon for his next fight will be his first in the famous arena and New York is "a dream come true."

He would like to face IBF champion Brian Viloria in a unification bout.

"After this fight, we can have a great fight against Brian Viloria, which can also be for good money. Moreover, we have history as I fought him three times in the amateurs and he won two of them," Calderon said.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt= ... e&id=19818

[TitoFan]

Wow... didn't realize Ivan's 34 already. Maybe not old for heavyweights, but a little long in the tooth for the little guys. I hope Ivan squeezes in a couple more fights against top opposition before he decides to hang it up.

[Violent Demise]

Wow... didn't realize Ivan's 34 already. Maybe not old for heavyweights, but a little long in the tooth for the little guys. I hope Ivan squeezes in a couple more fights against top opposition before he decides to hang it up.

Calderon is there for the taking. I think the flip can do it

[XaduBoxer]

RP vs. PR is heating up...

"Campeon vs. Campeon" JuanMa defeated Peñalosa...

Calderon vs. Mayol coming up...

On August 22, another "Campeon vs. Campeon" Nonito Donaire vs. Jose "Carita" Lopez ...

And if Morel upsets Montiel, there's a possibility of Morel vs. Peñalosa at bantamweight...
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[ElTerribleMorales]

RP vs. PR is heating up...

"Campeon vs. Campeon" JuanMa defeated Peñalosa...

Calderon vs. Mayol coming up...

On August 22, another "Campeon vs. Campeon" Nonito Donaire vs. Jose "Carita" Lopez ...

And if Morel upsets Montiel, there's a possibility of Morel vs. Peñalosa at bantamweight...
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i highly doubt Morel will beat Montiel though, he honestly has looked like crap since he lost his 0, Martin Castillo put quite a whooping on him, and i doubt that the jail time did him much good at least in regards to his career, wouldn't mind seeing Viloria Vs. Calderon though either