nigel benn on roy jones

[skel1983]

everyone sure does have super hindsight when talking about roy vs benn..when back then, roy jones super motivated, undefeated, and prime, stops a wide open benn inside of six rounds..but since roy got knocked out some seven to eight years after the fact,

i guess it would make sense that he would have been kayoed then too

Nah,what happened years later has little too do with the 'what ifs' and possibilitys at that time in each guys career.Up to that point in Jones career in 95',I was pretty much saying the exact same thing as today concerning a Benn fight while watching Jones fight flimsy alphabet ranked showcase fights and after Toney victory & listening to Larry Merchant call his KO of Byrd "the most exciting 1st round KO in boxing since Mike Tyson over Michael Spinks"....

That fight was there to be had.And saying and assuming a crushing victory over Benn is in no way as impressive as Jones actually doing it in the ring.Benn wanted it....Jones did not.

none of them really wanted it...benn eubank, collins, DM, JC, none of them really wanted to face 90s jones....and if benn had fought jones after fighting G-MAN he would have been in the same state has G-MAN.

Says who you? Collins wanted it badly, i know Benn was ready to fight him but you couldnt negotiate with Jones Jnr, he was more or less impossible.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Nah,what happened years later has little too do with the 'what ifs' and possibilitys at that time in each guys career.Up to that point in Jones career in 95',I was pretty much saying the exact same thing as today concerning a Benn fight while watching Jones fight flimsy alphabet ranked showcase fights and after Toney victory & listening to Larry Merchant call his KO of Byrd "the most exciting 1st round KO in boxing since Mike Tyson over Michael Spinks"....

That fight was there to be had.And saying and assuming a crushing victory over Benn is in no way as impressive as Jones actually doing it in the ring.Benn wanted it....Jones did not.

none of them really wanted it...benn eubank, collins, DM, JC, none of them really wanted to face 90s jones....and if benn had fought jones after fighting G-MAN he would have been in the same state has G-MAN.

Says who you? Collins wanted it badly, i know Benn was ready to fight him but you couldnt negotiate with Jones Jnr, he was more or less impossible.

says who you? Their actions say it, it was very clear that jones wasn't leaving the states following the olympics, besides Jones was the recognized p4p best fighter throughout the mid/late 90's certainly the best from 160-174...they should have flown to the states to prove they "wanted it" and just like in this interview with benn, there's one where jones claims all them where offered seven figures and none of them took it.

[Master]

By the time Collins wanted to fight Jones he was after a big pay day and was effectively avoiding fighting Galzaghe.

[Drago]

not sure when collins said he wanted to fight him i remember him saying he would fight in RJJ backyard tho

[Drago]

had a look cant find the interview on the net, i remember posting the details on here abt a yr ago tho

[ICB]

Whether or not Roy Jones Jr avoided Steve Collins is irrelvant, i think we can all agree he would of whooped Steve Collins like a red headed step child. His style was made for Roy Jones Jr, i still don't think Roy Jones Jr's record is as bad as some people make out when you actually break it down.

[skel1983]

none of them really wanted it...benn eubank, collins, DM, JC, none of them really wanted to face 90s jones....and if benn had fought jones after fighting G-MAN he would have been in the same state has G-MAN.

Says who you? Collins wanted it badly, i know Benn was ready to fight him but you couldnt negotiate with Jones Jnr, he was more or less impossible.

says who you? Their actions say it, it was very clear that jones wasn't leaving the states following the olympics, besides Jones was the recognized p4p best fighter throughout the mid/late 90's certainly the best from 160-174...they should have flown to the states to prove they "wanted it" and just like in this interview with benn, there's one where jones claims all them where offered seven figures and none of them took it.

There actions?? How about RJJ actions? What a fucking stupid excuse he wasnt prepared to leave the States because of the Olympics, well that just shows what sort of champion he is, european fighters are seen as bums for not travelling but the American fighters dont travel and its ok? Please, he got screwed in the fucking Olympics in 1988 for the gold medal so that gives him an excuse no to travel?? Imagine that was the excuse someone like Calzaghe or Benn or Eubank used, my god we would never here the end of it, but because hes from America its ok??

Thats not how it works my friend, America 80% of the time is where the fights are but not always, and RJJ missed out on some big fightes between 1995-2002, but obviously all the other guys fault nothing to do with Roy, no cant be RJJ fault , the man cant do no wrong. Like i said previously RJJ was a nightmare to negotiate with just ask Clinton woods

[JonesJrMayweather]

Says who you? Collins wanted it badly, i know Benn was ready to fight him but you couldnt negotiate with Jones Jnr, he was more or less impossible.

says who you? Their actions say it, it was very clear that jones wasn't leaving the states following the olympics, besides Jones was the recognized p4p best fighter throughout the mid/late 90's certainly the best from 160-174...they should have flown to the states to prove they "wanted it" and just like in this interview with benn, there's one where jones claims all them where offered seven figures and none of them took it.

There actions?? How about RJJ actions? What a fucking stupid excuse he wasnt prepared to leave the States because of the Olympics, well that just shows what sort of champion he is, european fighters are seen as bums for not travelling but the American fighters dont travel and its ok? Please, he got screwed in the fucking Olympics in 1988 for the gold medal so that gives him an excuse no to travel?? Imagine that was the excuse someone like Calzaghe or Benn or Eubank used, my god we would never here the end of it, but because hes from America its ok??

Thats not how it works my friend, America 80% of the time is where the fights are but not always, and RJJ missed out on some big fightes between 1995-2002, but obviously all the other guys fault nothing to do with Roy, no cant be RJJ fault , the man cant do no wrong. Like i said previously RJJ was a nightmare to negotiate with just ask Clinton woods

Even with all that being said, clinton woods still fought him for the his biggest payday and got stopped by a nowhere near prime version of jones. the mid nineties jones had all the bargaining power over eubank,collins,DM,JC, and benn... and after the so called being difficult to bargain with talk, clinton woods actually wanted a rematch...