The Mayweather double standard.

[ElTerribleMorales]

uh but eric is the only 1 who actually won over pac, marco never came close and jmm always comes up short. I dont think his one demensional thats a big harsh

not to mention many believe that Morales won the second fight, which was the most TECHNICAL fight of the 3
first off don't call me little boy cause unlike you i'm no kid, it's no jibberish because even a flash knockdown would have done it, don't kid yourself thinking that Manny was anywhere close in stopping JMM, the thing you don't understand is that Pacquiao ONLY won due to the knockdown, cause if it weren't for that, there is NO way anyone would have been able to have him ahead of JMM

uh yeah and he's also the only one that was beaten into submission twice by pacman since thats what you use to gauge his ability against MAB and JMM. Even the clearly past it MAB managed a decision.

well then going by your way of thinking, Jones Jr must of been pretty one dimensional as well, cause the first time he stepped in the ring against a hard hitting fast southpaw in Tarver he barely got a MD, then got KTFO in 2, with only one shot, brutally KO'd in his next fight against Johnson, and then barely managed to make it out of the 11th to lose by UD against Tarver funny how that "logic" works out

That's your logic not mine, dude i think you should have someone read aloud to you, because it seems that you're processing the information wrong...you used erik's one victory over pacman as leverage to him being better than JMM and MAB, and the fact that he was able to slug with pacquiao instead of box. It's your logic that he's not one dimensional based off what he did against an underschooled pacman, once roach was able to get manny to wait and counter a little bit, morrales was done. An d they learned that after watching raheem beat the hell out of him, only difference was Zahir didnt hit as hard as Manny.

Now just to entertain the silly comments about roy...only an idiot would argue that jones was one dimensional.

BTW don't take it personal, im sure erik morales doesn't pay you to be his internet guardian

where the hell did i use it as leverage, learn to read buddy i said that Morales' win over Pacquiao was probably more due to Pacquiao's lack of technical ability at the time, because Morales pretty much showed he was shot in his very next fight, not taking it personal at all, just saying that Morales is one dimensional is incredibly narrowminded, and no i don't think that Jones is one dimensional by any means, but using the same logic THAT YOU USED, of how the first time Morales faced a "slick" fighter, he lost by a lopsided margin, the same can be said about Jones Jr, cause well you know very well how he's been as of since the Tarver KO, both fighters (Morales & Jones) lost so many fights (and badly at that) back to back, due to weight problems and decline in ability

as for you last comment, you're one to talk, this is from the dude who thought Taylor was the future of boxing at one point...

[piye]

Wow, Six pages! and pretty much unanimous hatred for Floyd! I mean Floyd is a fighter I like but by no means a favorite of mine! My personal favorites are Paul Williams, David Haye and Shane Moseley.

I posted this article because I read it as a unbiased rational 26 year old man; and I must say one thing that is clear, the majority of people including professionals (Max Kellermen, Larry Merchant mostly American press) allow the somewhat unfounded hatred they harbor for Floyd Mayweather to affect their judgments.

I mean a claim I see flying around a lot is Floyd ducked Cotto, However Cotto to my knowledge unlike Margarito, never made any attempt to make a fight with Mayweather, Floyd mentioned Cotto's name as a potential opponent when they were both at 140 and that was the only mention from either fighter! at other times people have asked Cotto about fighting Mayweather and the answer has always been I'll fight whoever they put in front of me.

The other unfounded claim is Mayweather avoiding Shane despite the fact that it's common knowledge that Floyd called Shane out multiple times, any fan who searches on youtube will also be able to find a video clip of Shane saying he thinks Mayweather should fight Margarito instead, and then that he had a toothache and then was going on family holiday! imagine if Floyd used these excuses?

I think that Floyd's large mouth and repeated stupid comments have alienated him to the point that he is now actually correct in feeling discriminated against.

[Rantcatrat]

Wow, Six pages! and pretty much unanimous hatred for Floyd! I mean Floyd is a fighter I like but by no means a favorite of mine! My personal favorites are Paul Williams, David Haye and Shane Moseley.

I posted this article because I read it as a unbiased rational 26 year old man; and I must say one thing that is clear, the majority of people including professionals (Max Kellermen, Larry Merchant mostly American press) allow the somewhat unfounded hatred they harbor for Floyd Mayweather to affect their judgments.

I mean a claim I see flying around a lot is Floyd ducked Cotto, However Cotto to my knowledge unlike Margarito, never made any attempt to make a fight with Mayweather, Floyd mentioned Cotto's name as a potential opponent when they were both at 140 and that was the only mention from either fighter! at other times people have asked Cotto about fighting Mayweather and the answer has always been I'll fight whoever they put in front of me.

The other unfounded claim is Mayweather avoiding Shane despite the fact that it's common knowledge that Floyd called Shane out multiple times, any fan who searches on youtube will also be able to find a video clip of Shane saying he thinks Mayweather should fight Margarito instead, and then that he had a toothache and then was going on family holiday! imagine if Floyd used these excuses?

I think that Floyd's large mouth and repeated stupid comments have alienated him to the point that he is now actually correct in feeling discriminated against.

I would never make the argument PBF ducked anyone. However, when he fought for a belt at 147, instead of fighting Margarito or others, he fought Baldomir.

After that fight, instead of fighting Cotto, Margarito, or Williams, he fought jr. welterweight, Ricky Hatton, at 147 mind you, and now instead of fighting Cotto, Mosley or Paul Williams (Margarito is suspended), he is fighting Marquez. Moreover, his next fight looks to be Pacquiao.

Will he ever face a prime, elite welterweight?

The criticism against PBF is that with all the potential options at 147 (in which he probably would be favored), he chooses to fight smaller men.

[piye]

Wow, Six pages! and pretty much unanimous hatred for Floyd! I mean Floyd is a fighter I like but by no means a favorite of mine! My personal favorites are Paul Williams, David Haye and Shane Moseley.

I posted this article because I read it as a unbiased rational 26 year old man; and I must say one thing that is clear, the majority of people including professionals (Max Kellermen, Larry Merchant mostly American press) allow the somewhat unfounded hatred they harbor for Floyd Mayweather to affect their judgments.

I mean a claim I see flying around a lot is Floyd ducked Cotto, However Cotto to my knowledge unlike Margarito, never made any attempt to make a fight with Mayweather, Floyd mentioned Cotto's name as a potential opponent when they were both at 140 and that was the only mention from either fighter! at other times people have asked Cotto about fighting Mayweather and the answer has always been I'll fight whoever they put in front of me.

The other unfounded claim is Mayweather avoiding Shane despite the fact that it's common knowledge that Floyd called Shane out multiple times, any fan who searches on youtube will also be able to find a video clip of Shane saying he thinks Mayweather should fight Margarito instead, and then that he had a toothache and then was going on family holiday! imagine if Floyd used these excuses?

I think that Floyd's large mouth and repeated stupid comments have alienated him to the point that he is now actually correct in feeling discriminated against.

I would never make the argument PBF ducked anyone. However, when he fought for a belt at 147, instead of fighting Margarito or others, he fought Baldomir.

After that fight, instead of fighting Cotto, Margarito, or Williams, he fought jr. welterweight, Ricky Hatton, at 147 mind you, and now instead of fighting Cotto, Mosley or Paul Williams (Margarito is suspended), he is fighting Marquez. Moreover, his next fight looks to be Pacquiao.

Will he ever face a prime, elite welterweight?

The criticism against PBF is that with all the potential options at 147 (in which he probably would be favored), he chooses to fight smaller men.

Take into account Mayweather called out Shane and Cotto, so let's leave them out of the equation; beat Zab (who is now considered a bum but was undisputed welterweight champ) and beat Oscar at 154 no less who else was there for Floyd to fight at Welter at the time?

Paul Williams Although a huge threat, was green and a no name, Berto was unheard of or was and still is very green, so that leaves Margarito as the only option who I agree Floyd could have/ should have fought (Although retrospect makes his choice appear a good one).

[kingfrnk]

Wow, Six pages! and pretty much unanimous hatred for Floyd! I mean Floyd is a fighter I like but by no means a favorite of mine! My personal favorites are Paul Williams, David Haye and Shane Moseley.

I posted this article because I read it as a unbiased rational 26 year old man; and I must say one thing that is clear, the majority of people including professionals (Max Kellermen, Larry Merchant mostly American press) allow the somewhat unfounded hatred they harbor for Floyd Mayweather to affect their judgments.

I mean a claim I see flying around a lot is Floyd ducked Cotto, However Cotto to my knowledge unlike Margarito, never made any attempt to make a fight with Mayweather, Floyd mentioned Cotto's name as a potential opponent when they were both at 140 and that was the only mention from either fighter! at other times people have asked Cotto about fighting Mayweather and the answer has always been I'll fight whoever they put in front of me.

The other unfounded claim is Mayweather avoiding Shane despite the fact that it's common knowledge that Floyd called Shane out multiple times, any fan who searches on youtube will also be able to find a video clip of Shane saying he thinks Mayweather should fight Margarito instead, and then that he had a toothache and then was going on family holiday! imagine if Floyd used these excuses?

I think that Floyd's large mouth and repeated stupid comments have alienated him to the point that he is now actually correct in feeling discriminated against.

I would never make the argument PBF ducked anyone. However, when he fought for a belt at 147, instead of fighting Margarito or others, he fought Baldomir.

After that fight, instead of fighting Cotto, Margarito, or Williams, he fought jr. welterweight, Ricky Hatton, at 147 mind you, and now instead of fighting Cotto, Mosley or Paul Williams (Margarito is suspended), he is fighting Marquez. Moreover, his next fight looks to be Pacquiao.

Will he ever face a prime, elite welterweight?

The criticism against PBF is that with all the potential options at 147 (in which he probably would be favored), he chooses to fight smaller men.

Take into account Mayweather called out Shane and Cotto, so let's leave them out of the equation; beat Zab (who is now considered a bum but was undisputed welterweight champ) and beat Oscar at 154 no less who else was there for Floyd to fight at Welter at the time?

Paul Williams Although a huge threat, was green and a no name, Berto was unheard of or was and still is very green, so that leaves Margarito as the only option who I agree Floyd could have/ should have fought (Although retrospect makes his choice appear a good one).

i dont remember Floyd calling out Cotto just Shane.

[piye]

I would never make the argument PBF ducked anyone. However, when he fought for a belt at 147, instead of fighting Margarito or others, he fought Baldomir.

After that fight, instead of fighting Cotto, Margarito, or Williams, he fought jr. welterweight, Ricky Hatton, at 147 mind you, and now instead of fighting Cotto, Mosley or Paul Williams (Margarito is suspended), he is fighting Marquez. Moreover, his next fight looks to be Pacquiao.

Will he ever face a prime, elite welterweight?

The criticism against PBF is that with all the potential options at 147 (in which he probably would be favored), he chooses to fight smaller men.

Take into account Mayweather called out Shane and Cotto, so let's leave them out of the equation; beat Zab (who is now considered a bum but was undisputed welterweight champ) and beat Oscar at 154 no less who else was there for Floyd to fight at Welter at the time?

Paul Williams Although a huge threat, was green and a no name, Berto was unheard of or was and still is very green, so that leaves Margarito as the only option who I agree Floyd could have/ should have fought (Although retrospect makes his choice appear a good one).

i dont remember Floyd calling out Cotto just Shane.

Yeah he definitely did call out Cotto at 140 type it in to google.

[Master]

Take into account Mayweather called out Shane and Cotto, so let's leave them out of the equation; beat Zab (who is now considered a bum but was undisputed welterweight champ) and beat Oscar at 154 no less who else was there for Floyd to fight at Welter at the time?

Paul Williams Although a huge threat, was green and a no name, Berto was unheard of or was and still is very green, so that leaves Margarito as the only option who I agree Floyd could have/ should have fought (Although retrospect makes his choice appear a good one).[/quote]

Zab had got beat by Baldimor so do not know why he had to fight Zab when someone else would have been more challenging.

[Rantcatrat]

Wow, Six pages! and pretty much unanimous hatred for Floyd! I mean Floyd is a fighter I like but by no means a favorite of mine! My personal favorites are Paul Williams, David Haye and Shane Moseley.

I posted this article because I read it as a unbiased rational 26 year old man; and I must say one thing that is clear, the majority of people including professionals (Max Kellermen, Larry Merchant mostly American press) allow the somewhat unfounded hatred they harbor for Floyd Mayweather to affect their judgments.

I mean a claim I see flying around a lot is Floyd ducked Cotto, However Cotto to my knowledge unlike Margarito, never made any attempt to make a fight with Mayweather, Floyd mentioned Cotto's name as a potential opponent when they were both at 140 and that was the only mention from either fighter! at other times people have asked Cotto about fighting Mayweather and the answer has always been I'll fight whoever they put in front of me.

The other unfounded claim is Mayweather avoiding Shane despite the fact that it's common knowledge that Floyd called Shane out multiple times, any fan who searches on youtube will also be able to find a video clip of Shane saying he thinks Mayweather should fight Margarito instead, and then that he had a toothache and then was going on family holiday! imagine if Floyd used these excuses?

I think that Floyd's large mouth and repeated stupid comments have alienated him to the point that he is now actually correct in feeling discriminated against.

I would never make the argument PBF ducked anyone. However, when he fought for a belt at 147, instead of fighting Margarito or others, he fought Baldomir.

After that fight, instead of fighting Cotto, Margarito, or Williams, he fought jr. welterweight, Ricky Hatton, at 147 mind you, and now instead of fighting Cotto, Mosley or Paul Williams (Margarito is suspended), he is fighting Marquez. Moreover, his next fight looks to be Pacquiao.

Will he ever face a prime, elite welterweight?

The criticism against PBF is that with all the potential options at 147 (in which he probably would be favored), he chooses to fight smaller men.

Take into account Mayweather called out Shane and Cotto, so let's leave them out of the equation; beat Zab (who is now considered a bum but was undisputed welterweight champ) and beat Oscar at 154 no less who else was there for Floyd to fight at Welter at the time?

Paul Williams Although a huge threat, was green and a no name, Berto was unheard of or was and still is very green, so that leaves Margarito as the only option who I agree Floyd could have/ should have fought (Although retrospect makes his choice appear a good one).

Leaving aside the argument about what he should have done in the past, his choice for his last fight and for his next fight leave something to be desired. After he beat Hatton, but before he retired, boxing fans everywhere, pbf fans or not, wanted him to fight Mosley, Cotto, or Margarito (Williams wasn't there yet). Then he retired. Now, he unretires. Yet, instead of fighting any of the above-mentioned boxers, he chooses to fight a blown up light weight, at 147. That is disappointing. And who is his next potential opponent? Probably Manny Paquiao, again at 147. Basically, a welterweight ending his career fighting a junior welterweight, a lightweight, and another lightweight (although Manny may naturally be a 140 fighter), and not fighting one legitimate welterweight, of which there are at least 4 that are worthy.

[piye]

I would never make the argument PBF ducked anyone. However, when he fought for a belt at 147, instead of fighting Margarito or others, he fought Baldomir.

After that fight, instead of fighting Cotto, Margarito, or Williams, he fought jr. welterweight, Ricky Hatton, at 147 mind you, and now instead of fighting Cotto, Mosley or Paul Williams (Margarito is suspended), he is fighting Marquez. Moreover, his next fight looks to be Pacquiao.

Will he ever face a prime, elite welterweight?

The criticism against PBF is that with all the potential options at 147 (in which he probably would be favored), he chooses to fight smaller men.

Take into account Mayweather called out Shane and Cotto, so let's leave them out of the equation; beat Zab (who is now considered a bum but was undisputed welterweight champ) and beat Oscar at 154 no less who else was there for Floyd to fight at Welter at the time?

Paul Williams Although a huge threat, was green and a no name, Berto was unheard of or was and still is very green, so that leaves Margarito as the only option who I agree Floyd could have/ should have fought (Although retrospect makes his choice appear a good one).

Leaving aside the argument about what he should have done in the past, his choice for his last fight and for his next fight leave something to be desired. After he beat Hatton, but before he retired, boxing fans everywhere, pbf fans or not, wanted him to fight Mosley, Cotto, or Margarito (Williams wasn't there yet). Then he retired. Now, he unretires. Yet, instead of fighting any of the above-mentioned boxers, he chooses to fight a blown up light weight, at 147. That is disappointing. And who is his next potential opponent? Probably Manny Paquiao, again at 147. Basically, a welterweight ending his career fighting a junior welterweight, a lightweight, and another lightweight (although Manny may naturally be a 140 fighter), and not fighting one legitimate welterweight, of which there are at least 4 that are worthy.

I agree with a lot of what you have said, I want Mayweather to fight Moseley (I think Moseley could win if the fight is soon) but what I do not think is that Mayweather is ducking Moseley, nor has he ever ducked Moseley! Moseley has called out Floyd when it's suitable for him, and Floyd called out Shane when it was suitable for him! it's all money in reality and not ducking!

Am I dissapointed Floyd is not fighting Shane? Yes, Do I think he should fight Paul? No; paul is to big my point is not if he should fight these people or not though it's that all of this ducking and double standard nonsense and stupid claims annoy me.

[Rantcatrat]

Take into account Mayweather called out Shane and Cotto, so let's leave them out of the equation; beat Zab (who is now considered a bum but was undisputed welterweight champ) and beat Oscar at 154 no less who else was there for Floyd to fight at Welter at the time?

Paul Williams Although a huge threat, was green and a no name, Berto was unheard of or was and still is very green, so that leaves Margarito as the only option who I agree Floyd could have/ should have fought (Although retrospect makes his choice appear a good one).

Leaving aside the argument about what he should have done in the past, his choice for his last fight and for his next fight leave something to be desired. After he beat Hatton, but before he retired, boxing fans everywhere, pbf fans or not, wanted him to fight Mosley, Cotto, or Margarito (Williams wasn't there yet). Then he retired. Now, he unretires. Yet, instead of fighting any of the above-mentioned boxers, he chooses to fight a blown up light weight, at 147. That is disappointing. And who is his next potential opponent? Probably Manny Paquiao, again at 147. Basically, a welterweight ending his career fighting a junior welterweight, a lightweight, and another lightweight (although Manny may naturally be a 140 fighter), and not fighting one legitimate welterweight, of which there are at least 4 that are worthy.

I agree with a lot of what you have said, I want Mayweather to fight Moseley (I think Moseley could win if the fight is soon) but what I do not think is that Mayweather is ducking Moseley, nor has he ever ducked Moseley! Moseley has called out Floyd when it's suitable for him, and Floyd called out Shane when it was suitable for him! it's all money in reality and not ducking!

Am I dissapointed Floyd is not fighting Shane? Yes, Do I think he should fight Paul? No; paul is to big my point is not if he should fight these people or not though it's that all of this ducking and double standard nonsense and stupid claims annoy me.

Fair enough - the ducking rumors are complete nonsense. It's about money and contract terms.

Floyd needs to fight the natural welterweights. He came out of retirement and again chose to fight a smaller man. I don't dislike Floyd as a fighter, but as a fan, he hasn't taken a challenging fight in a while, and it is wrong to always fight smaller men at your natural weight. He should fight other men who share that natural weight.

[JonesJrMayweather]

not to mention many believe that Morales won the second fight, which was the most TECHNICAL fight of the 3
first off don't call me little boy cause unlike you i'm no kid, it's no jibberish because even a flash knockdown would have done it, don't kid yourself thinking that Manny was anywhere close in stopping JMM, the thing you don't understand is that Pacquiao ONLY won due to the knockdown, cause if it weren't for that, there is NO way anyone would have been able to have him ahead of JMM


well then going by your way of thinking, Jones Jr must of been pretty one dimensional as well, cause the first time he stepped in the ring against a hard hitting fast southpaw in Tarver he barely got a MD, then got KTFO in 2, with only one shot, brutally KO'd in his next fight against Johnson, and then barely managed to make it out of the 11th to lose by UD against Tarver funny how that "logic" works out

That's your logic not mine, dude i think you should have someone read aloud to you, because it seems that you're processing the information wrong...you used erik's one victory over pacman as leverage to him being better than JMM and MAB, and the fact that he was able to slug with pacquiao instead of box. It's your logic that he's not one dimensional based off what he did against an underschooled pacman, once roach was able to get manny to wait and counter a little bit, morrales was done. An d they learned that after watching raheem beat the hell out of him, only difference was Zahir didnt hit as hard as Manny.

Now just to entertain the silly comments about roy...only an idiot would argue that jones was one dimensional.

BTW don't take it personal, im sure erik morales doesn't pay you to be his internet guardian

where the hell did i use it as leverage, learn to read buddy i said that Morales' win over Pacquiao was probably more due to Pacquiao's lack of technical ability at the time, because Morales pretty much showed he was shot in his very next fight, not taking it personal at all, just saying that Morales is one dimensional is incredibly narrowminded, and no i don't think that Jones is one dimensional by any means, but using the same logic THAT YOU USED, of how the first time Morales faced a "slick" fighter, he lost by a lopsided margin, the same can be said about Jones Jr, cause well you know very well how he's been as of since the Tarver KO, both fighters (Morales & Jones) lost so many fights (and badly at that) back to back, due to weight problems and decline in ability

as for you last comment, you're one to talk, this is from the dude who thought Taylor was the future of boxing at one point...

Taylor? I think you have me confused with someone else...never backed jermain taylor as the future of the sport...cant remeber even picking taylor for any fight now that i think of it..

and i do apologize for reading too fast, that comment about logic was to the guy that said "uh but erik is the only one to beat pacman out of JMM and MAB"...

[ElTerribleMorales]

That's your logic not mine, dude i think you should have someone read aloud to you, because it seems that you're processing the information wrong...you used erik's one victory over pacman as leverage to him being better than JMM and MAB, and the fact that he was able to slug with pacquiao instead of box. It's your logic that he's not one dimensional based off what he did against an underschooled pacman, once roach was able to get manny to wait and counter a little bit, morrales was done. An d they learned that after watching raheem beat the hell out of him, only difference was Zahir didnt hit as hard as Manny.

Now just to entertain the silly comments about roy...only an idiot would argue that jones was one dimensional.

BTW don't take it personal, im sure erik morales doesn't pay you to be his internet guardian

where the hell did i use it as leverage, learn to read buddy i said that Morales' win over Pacquiao was probably more due to Pacquiao's lack of technical ability at the time, because Morales pretty much showed he was shot in his very next fight, not taking it personal at all, just saying that Morales is one dimensional is incredibly narrowminded, and no i don't think that Jones is one dimensional by any means, but using the same logic THAT YOU USED, of how the first time Morales faced a "slick" fighter, he lost by a lopsided margin, the same can be said about Jones Jr, cause well you know very well how he's been as of since the Tarver KO, both fighters (Morales & Jones) lost so many fights (and badly at that) back to back, due to weight problems and decline in ability

as for you last comment, you're one to talk, this is from the dude who thought Taylor was the future of boxing at one point...

Taylor? I think you have me confused with someone else...never backed jermain taylor as the future of the sport...cant remeber even picking taylor for any fight now that i think of it..

and i do apologize for reading too fast, that comment about logic was to the guy that said "uh but erik is the only one to beat pacman out of JMM and MAB"...

no prob, honestly though back to the subject at hand, i think people are reading way too damn much into the whole p4p #1 thing, it's really starting to get ridiculous