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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    pacman would beat shane at 142 and 147 imo shanes past it now

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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    I might be in the minority, but I will give Pac very little credit (if any) for beating fighters well below their fighting weight. Mosley at 142 would be as much, if not more, of a corpse than ODH was, I feel the same way about Cotto at 140 (even fucking Malignaggi was able to rock him when he was weight drained) or ever 144/145.

    Pac is good enough (one of the best ever IMO) to challenge his opponents at their natural weight. He doesn't need to resort to this kind of bullshit.
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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    142 is not realistic for Mosley to reach & still be effective, 145 sure... Is Roach trying to find some way to avoid Mosley?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    142 is not realistic for Mosley to reach & still be effective, 145 sure... Is Roach trying to find some way to avoid Mosley?
    Mosely is a bad match up for Pac, just too much strength when bigger. So I think, yes. I don't blame him for only accepting with a compromise.

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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    142 is bullshit. No way should Mosley agree to that weight.
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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    This is getting old and everybody has to be catching on to this tactic. Wanting these guys at weights they realistically aren't effective at They haven't been there in years. Roach is very crafty but come on man. Mosley would be an easy victim at 142. He barely makes 147 nowadays in his older age. Like one post said, Roach needs to fight welterweights at welterweight or don't talk about it at all. Pac is nice but don't try to play the public and the boxers. Cutting too much weight is the single worst disadvantage in boxing. It is better to fight bigger buys than to come down too much. Especially at an advanced age. I did that once and you feel like a hollow body. Flat, no strength, weak legs, light headed, etc. I never said anything to my coaches but for the first time before a bout I wanted no parts of fighting. Its terrible. Roach knows Mosley is all wrong for Pac and 142 is the answer. I'd rather Pac just continue his career with the 140 pounders. Cotto and Mosley wouldn't even be formidable opponents at less than 147. Maybe even worse than DLH at 147.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    This is getting old and everybody has to be catching on to this tactic. Wanting these guys at weights they realistically aren't effective at They haven't been there in years. Roach is very crafty but come on man. Mosley would be an easy victim at 142. He barely makes 147 nowadays in his older age. Like one post said, Roach needs to fight welterweights at welterweight or don't talk about it at all. Pac is nice but don't try to play the public and the boxers. Cutting too much weight is the single worst disadvantage in boxing. It is better to fight bigger buys than to come down too much. Especially at an advanced age. I did that once and you feel like a hollow body. Flat, no strength, weak legs, light headed, etc. I never said anything to my coaches but for the first time before a bout I wanted no parts of fighting. Its terrible. Roach knows Mosley is all wrong for Pac and 142 is the answer. I'd rather Pac just continue his career with the 140 pounders. Cotto and Mosley wouldn't even be formidable opponents at less than 147. Maybe even worse than DLH at 147.
    100% agreed...i wouldn't give manny any credit for beating a weight drained 38 year old mosley..and give mosley all the credit if he beat pacman...roach knows he can fool the public with that "it's only five pounds", bullshit. Hell i think floyd would be ineffective at 142 and he's only been at 147 a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    142 is bullshit. No way should Mosley agree to that weight.
    None of these guys should accept fighting Pacman at below their natural wieght and they don't have to. UNLESS they want a big payday that is.
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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    142 is not realistic for Mosley to reach & still be effective, 145 sure... Is Roach trying to find some way to avoid Mosley?
    Mosely is a bad match up for Pac, just too much strength when bigger. So I think, yes. I don't blame him for only accepting with a compromise.
    I agree but 142 doesn't seem realistic & would be unwise for Mosley to attemp imo

    I'd much rather see Mosley/ Williams anyway, so let Pacquiao take on someone like Bradley while awaiting the winner of Mayweather/ Marquez
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