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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    142 is not realistic for Mosley to reach & still be effective, 145 sure... Is Roach trying to find some way to avoid Mosley?
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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    142 is not realistic for Mosley to reach & still be effective, 145 sure... Is Roach trying to find some way to avoid Mosley?
    Mosely is a bad match up for Pac, just too much strength when bigger. So I think, yes. I don't blame him for only accepting with a compromise.

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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    142 is bullshit. No way should Mosley agree to that weight.
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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    This is getting old and everybody has to be catching on to this tactic. Wanting these guys at weights they realistically aren't effective at They haven't been there in years. Roach is very crafty but come on man. Mosley would be an easy victim at 142. He barely makes 147 nowadays in his older age. Like one post said, Roach needs to fight welterweights at welterweight or don't talk about it at all. Pac is nice but don't try to play the public and the boxers. Cutting too much weight is the single worst disadvantage in boxing. It is better to fight bigger buys than to come down too much. Especially at an advanced age. I did that once and you feel like a hollow body. Flat, no strength, weak legs, light headed, etc. I never said anything to my coaches but for the first time before a bout I wanted no parts of fighting. Its terrible. Roach knows Mosley is all wrong for Pac and 142 is the answer. I'd rather Pac just continue his career with the 140 pounders. Cotto and Mosley wouldn't even be formidable opponents at less than 147. Maybe even worse than DLH at 147.
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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    This is getting old and everybody has to be catching on to this tactic. Wanting these guys at weights they realistically aren't effective at They haven't been there in years. Roach is very crafty but come on man. Mosley would be an easy victim at 142. He barely makes 147 nowadays in his older age. Like one post said, Roach needs to fight welterweights at welterweight or don't talk about it at all. Pac is nice but don't try to play the public and the boxers. Cutting too much weight is the single worst disadvantage in boxing. It is better to fight bigger buys than to come down too much. Especially at an advanced age. I did that once and you feel like a hollow body. Flat, no strength, weak legs, light headed, etc. I never said anything to my coaches but for the first time before a bout I wanted no parts of fighting. Its terrible. Roach knows Mosley is all wrong for Pac and 142 is the answer. I'd rather Pac just continue his career with the 140 pounders. Cotto and Mosley wouldn't even be formidable opponents at less than 147. Maybe even worse than DLH at 147.
    100% agreed...i wouldn't give manny any credit for beating a weight drained 38 year old mosley..and give mosley all the credit if he beat pacman...roach knows he can fool the public with that "it's only five pounds", bullshit. Hell i think floyd would be ineffective at 142 and he's only been at 147 a few years.
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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    honestly if Roach really said this BS i think it's completely moronic, Manny wants to play the angle of being the only 7 weight champion by winning a welterweight strap, well he'd have to do it at 147, and if Shane's the one with the status of champ at that weight, well Manny has to meet Mosley's terms not vice versa

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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    I saw the video of Roach saying this too, Shane should never fight below 147 for anyone it would seriously do him no good at all. I'd give Pac a lot of credit for fighting any natural 147 guy but not at silly catch weights.

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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    You guys are so full of it! Weight advantages are just part of the game. Some play the game better than others. As a clear example "Paul Williams" has been fighting "welterweight" two weight-classes below where he should have been beating smaller guys. Hatton is another example of a fighter that has been taking advantage of smaller fighters. Unless the 24-hour weigh-in is changed to a 2-hour weigh-in then the weight thing will be an advantage some fighters can use. Roach is playing hard in the negotiations, because Mosley campaigning hard for Mega bout. Catch weight is the best Mosley can do and Roach already said after the De La Hoya fight 144lbs.

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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    142 is bullshit. No way should Mosley agree to that weight.
    None of these guys should accept fighting Pacman at below their natural wieght and they don't have to. UNLESS they want a big payday that is.
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    Default Re: Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

    Quote Originally Posted by Youngblood View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    142 is not realistic for Mosley to reach & still be effective, 145 sure... Is Roach trying to find some way to avoid Mosley?
    Mosely is a bad match up for Pac, just too much strength when bigger. So I think, yes. I don't blame him for only accepting with a compromise.
    I agree but 142 doesn't seem realistic & would be unwise for Mosley to attemp imo

    I'd much rather see Mosley/ Williams anyway, so let Pacquiao take on someone like Bradley while awaiting the winner of Mayweather/ Marquez
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