Roach says "Manny will fight shane at 142 not 147"

[XaduBoxer]

These aren't catchweights they are weight drained weights. There is a real and dangerous difference.

As I've said, if the boxers agree to fight in a "weight-drained weight" then it's their sole responsibility to perform at that agreed "weight"... I think most of them agree to that "weight" and at the same time believed they can win the fight at that "weight"...

Some maybe are forced to agree to a certain "weight" but still accepted the fight because of other factors like money, moolah, dinero, fame, glory, legacy, etc.

If they (or their fans??) are really not comfortable of that certain "weight" then they should not accept the fight... Simple as that...
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You're right the fighters should not accept the fight at these weights. But call it what it is though. This is a tactful way of not fighting someone unless you can almost guarantee they are ineffective. I won't fight this fighter unless they come down to a weight they haven't seen in many years. And that was in their youth. This is worse than pricing yourself out of a fight. PBF is getting all kinds of criticism for fighting JMM at a catchweight. And thats a real catchweight. JMM will be the smaller fighter but neither will be drained. I do agree with Roach that JMM's power has seemed to step up with his weight developing.

It's Mosley who's been chasing the Pacquiao fight... PAC's coach said it, he's just protecting his boxer... No need for PAC to fight Mosley at 147... PAC might just wait for the winner of PBF-JMM...

[Howlin Mad Missy]

As I've said, if the boxers agree to fight in a "weight-drained weight" then it's their sole responsibility to perform at that agreed "weight"... I think most of them agree to that "weight" and at the same time believed they can win the fight at that "weight"...

Some maybe are forced to agree to a certain "weight" but still accepted the fight because of other factors like money, moolah, dinero, fame, glory, legacy, etc.

If they (or their fans??) are really not comfortable of that certain "weight" then they should not accept the fight... Simple as that...
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You're right the fighters should not accept the fight at these weights. But call it what it is though. This is a tactful way of not fighting someone unless you can almost guarantee they are ineffective. I won't fight this fighter unless they come down to a weight they haven't seen in many years. And that was in their youth. This is worse than pricing yourself out of a fight. PBF is getting all kinds of criticism for fighting JMM at a catchweight. And thats a real catchweight. JMM will be the smaller fighter but neither will be drained. I do agree with Roach that JMM's power has seemed to step up with his weight developing.

It's Mosley who's been chasing the Pacquiao fight... PAC's coach said it, he's just protecting his boxer... No need for PAC to fight Mosley at 147... PAC might just wait for the winner of PBF-JMM...

He mentioned fighting Mosley before the Hatton fight.

If there is no need for Pac to fight him why say it's an option? If it's not an option say there is no way they'll fight not talk up some crap about a stupid 'catchweight'. Another thing if Roach gave a shit about other boxers he wouldn't insist on them dropping weight to fight Pac.

By rabbiting on in the public eye about it he is putting pressure on fighters to sign.

They should stick together and go tell Roach/Pac to screw themselves. If the other big names refuse these conditions Pas gets frozen out at true world level. They need to realise it takes two big names to make a fight legit.

Wanna play hardball? Come sign with Missy. I'll look after a fighter

[XaduBoxer]

You're right the fighters should not accept the fight at these weights. But call it what it is though. This is a tactful way of not fighting someone unless you can almost guarantee they are ineffective. I won't fight this fighter unless they come down to a weight they haven't seen in many years. And that was in their youth. This is worse than pricing yourself out of a fight. PBF is getting all kinds of criticism for fighting JMM at a catchweight. And thats a real catchweight. JMM will be the smaller fighter but neither will be drained. I do agree with Roach that JMM's power has seemed to step up with his weight developing.

It's Mosley who's been chasing the Pacquiao fight... PAC's coach said it, he's just protecting his boxer... No need for PAC to fight Mosley at 147... PAC might just wait for the winner of PBF-JMM...

He mentioned fighting Mosley before the Hatton fight.

If there is no need for Pac to fight him why say it's an option? If it's not an option say there is no way they'll fight not talk up some crap about a stupid 'catchweight'. Another thing if Roach gave a shit about other boxers he wouldn't insist on them dropping weight to fight Pac.

By rabbiting on in the public eye about it he is putting pressure on fighters to sign.

They should stick together and go tell Roach/Pac to screw themselves. If the other big names refuse these conditions Pas gets frozen out at true world level. They need to realise it takes two big names to make a fight legit.

Wanna play hardball? Come sign with Missy. I'll look after a fighter

Mosley still an option for PAC if he will agree to come down at 142 but it seems Mosley can't do it then I think Mosley is now excluded as a possible PAC opponent...

Cotto already declared that he can go down to 144 to fight PAC so maybe Team PAC can consider that catchweight instead of having Cotto go down to 140 as what Roach was originally asking...

PBF and JMM will be fighting at 143 so it's a no brainer that the winner of PBF-JMM can also fight PAC at 143...

Still lots of options for PAC...
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[Kel]

It's Mosley who's been chasing the Pacquiao fight... PAC's coach said it, he's just protecting his boxer... No need for PAC to fight Mosley at 147... PAC might just wait for the winner of PBF-JMM...

He mentioned fighting Mosley before the Hatton fight.

If there is no need for Pac to fight him why say it's an option? If it's not an option say there is no way they'll fight not talk up some crap about a stupid 'catchweight'. Another thing if Roach gave a shit about other boxers he wouldn't insist on them dropping weight to fight Pac.

By rabbiting on in the public eye about it he is putting pressure on fighters to sign.

They should stick together and go tell Roach/Pac to screw themselves. If the other big names refuse these conditions Pas gets frozen out at true world level. They need to realise it takes two big names to make a fight legit.

Wanna play hardball? Come sign with Missy. I'll look after a fighter

Mosley still an option for PAC if he will agree to come down at 142 but it seems Mosley can't do it then I think Mosley is now excluded as a possible PAC opponent...

Cotto already declared that he can go down to 144 to fight PAC so maybe Team PAC can consider that catchweight instead of having Cotto go down to 140 as what Roach was originally asking...

PBF and JMM will be fighting at 143 so it's a no brainer that the winner of PBF-JMM can also fight PAC at 143...

Still lots of options for PAC...
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Links?

PBF JMM at 143 please?

Cotto agreeing to 144 please?

Just links thankyou SB.

[XaduBoxer]

He mentioned fighting Mosley before the Hatton fight.

If there is no need for Pac to fight him why say it's an option? If it's not an option say there is no way they'll fight not talk up some crap about a stupid 'catchweight'. Another thing if Roach gave a shit about other boxers he wouldn't insist on them dropping weight to fight Pac.

By rabbiting on in the public eye about it he is putting pressure on fighters to sign.

They should stick together and go tell Roach/Pac to screw themselves. If the other big names refuse these conditions Pas gets frozen out at true world level. They need to realise it takes two big names to make a fight legit.

Wanna play hardball? Come sign with Missy. I'll look after a fighter

Mosley still an option for PAC if he will agree to come down at 142 but it seems Mosley can't do it then I think Mosley is now excluded as a possible PAC opponent...

Cotto already declared that he can go down to 144 to fight PAC so maybe Team PAC can consider that catchweight instead of having Cotto go down to 140 as what Roach was originally asking...

PBF and JMM will be fighting at 143 so it's a no brainer that the winner of PBF-JMM can also fight PAC at 143...

Still lots of options for PAC...
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Links?

PBF JMM at 143 please?

Cotto agreeing to 144 please?

Just links thankyou SB.

link --> PBF JMM at 143

link --> Cotto agreeing to 144

No worries mate...
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