Fighters From Europe Are really overrated

[ledsham]

No offense to anyone here, but since this is a message board, I have to call it the way I see it. And after reading quite a few posts and threads here, Euro fighters get way overhyped by the media and by their fanboys.

A few on the list:
Rickey Hatton, Nigel Benn, Prince Naseem, Mighty Mike, Henry Cooper, Lennox Lewis, Joe Calzaghe, Dariusz Michalczewski, Max Schmeling, Frank Bruno, etc.

A prime example would be everyone on this board was going on and on about how Hatton and some in the media was going to knock out Floyd then later Pacman in a few rounds. And that Floyd and Pacman were garbage fighters who cherry pick their fights and fought at home. But I guess fighting 90% of your fights against bums and in England or other places in Europe isn't right?

And then when these Euro fighters beat elite fighters that are shot or past their primes like Calzaghe against Hopkins, JOnes Jr. as if its a celebration. And Nigel Benn revered in England ducked a prime Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins and would only want to fight them in Wembley. lol

Now I know some people wants to root for one of their own, but come on and be realistic. Sorry to say this but most fighters from Europe are really overrated. Hatton, Prince Naseem, Lennox Lewis, Frank Bruno, etc. That Hatton and Pacman fight was plain garbage, Pacman and Floyd fought a club fighter that didnt' belong in the ring with them.

Currently,25,european-worldchamions-that,s-not-overrated-that,s-domanation.

[generalbulldog]

25 European champions. Wow that is pretty impressive. Considering there are about 100 alphabet soup organizations out there. lol What happened to the European Hype Hatton that would KO Floyd and Pacman? Hatton is a club fighter that made a name for himself for beating a shot Tzyu.

How about Calzaghe that won against shot fighters like Hopkins and Jones Jr.? Where was he when those 2 were in their prime? Why didn't Nigel Benn greatly revered in the UK fight a prime Hopkins and Jones Jr?

[bzkfn]

25 European champions. Wow that is pretty impressive. Considering there are about 100 alphabet soup organizations out there. lol What happened to the European Hype Hatton that would KO Floyd and Pacman? Hatton is a club fighter that made a name for himself for beating a shot Tzyu.

How about Calzaghe that won against shot fighters like Hopkins and Jones Jr.? Where was he when those 2 were in their prime? Why didn't Nigel Benn greatly revered in the UK fight a prime Hopkins and Jones Jr?

How the fuck is Hopkins a shot fighter? Didn't he school the so called best middleweight in the world after Joe beat him?

Sorry thats the stupidest throw away thread I think I've ever read. Like the US didn't overhype Lacy before Calzaghe schooled him. Like Pavlik wasn't hyped to fuck before Hopkins schooled him. Same goes for Taylor, who's a good fighter but has showed major limitations over the 12 round distance.

You have got to be the first fan I've met who thought Nigel Benn was overrated.

[ledsham]

25 European champions. Wow that is pretty impressive. Considering there are about 100 alphabet soup organizations out there. lol What happened to the European Hype Hatton that would KO Floyd and Pacman? Hatton is a club fighter that made a name for himself for beating a shot Tzyu.

How about Calzaghe that won against shot fighters like Hopkins and Jones Jr.? Where was he when those 2 were in their prime? Why didn't Nigel Benn greatly revered in the UK fight a prime Hopkins and Jones Jr?

That,s-just-the-wbc,wba;ibf,wbo,-my,friend.

[Saddo]

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[bzkfn]

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[Saddo]

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[CFH]

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

nigel benn overrated. lol

[ElTerribleMorales]

on the Nigel Benn ducking Jones Jr thing, well i have it the other way around, i'd say Jones ducked both Benn and Eubank, even go so far to say he ducked, the G-Man as well, Lennox Lewis, never been a huge fan of his, but the man has legit wins over Ruddock, McCall, Morrison, Mercer, Golota, Briggs, Holyfield, Tua, Rahman, Tyson, and Vitali Klitschko, hardly hype bud

[TheDemolitionDan]

Any country can overrate their fighters. Take the U.S for example:

Lacy, De La Hoya, Taylor, Pavlik, Gatti (I know he's from Canada), Dawson (Ok fighter, but nothing special), Arreola (He's going to get hammered when he does fight a Klitschko), Berto (Same as Arreola he'll be exposed when he ups his competiton) Juan Diaz, etc. and many other fighters who are good, but they aren't as good as the hype. This list doesn't mean all U.S fighters are bad, they are guilty of over hyping fighter, just like every country. It's not just Euros.

[Blac_simba]

I don't think they are overrated at all I just think they are never known until they cross the Atlantic, that's when the media in the U.S starts to fidget including the fans and boxers.. all in all I think European boxers have proved themselves in their prime.. So Overrating is done only by the Media because the boxers you named above have competed against the best from the U.S and Around the world.

[erics44]

some fighters are over rated from all over the world, i dont think your list has very good examples of over rated fighters from britain

But to look at the ricky hatton example for example, if you knew the outcome of every fight (or any sporting event for that matter) at that level (or at any level in fact) what would be the point in sport

people thought ricky had a chance, i certainly did, he was the best around at light welter, a world class fighter, alright floyd was cream of the crop but it has only been wins in the latter part of his carear included the win over hatton where people have started to realise just how good he is

i have to say this thread is sh!t, there arent many views in the op with any substance

[X]

It's a fair comment, though.

I think the population of Europe is about 850 million, and there have not been as many world champions from there as (say) America. Mind you, the modern sport of boxing has been essentially an American sport with the 'world' governing bodies etc largely based or run from there.

I can't help noticing, however, just to make an innocent comparison that the population of Pakistan is 169 million though, and if you look back through history I can't think of a single Pakistani fighter who made it to world champion ...... and before people start talking about Amir Khan, he was brought up in Britain, learnt to box in Britain, got his amateur career started in Britain, fought for Britain in the Olympics and is now trained by an American, in no way does that make him a pakistani boxer.

Just to widen the debate, with the exception of a few cricketers, I can't think about too many examples of pakistani domination or contribution to historical world sporting excellence?

[BIG H]

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