Haye vs Wlad Klitschko

[AdamGB]

Of course it's a lot less likely he would of been knocked off balance if nothing had knocked him whilst he was off balance!?...

my point is that it doesn't mean anything, I keep going over this...

It was a balance issue... technically it was a knockdown but not effectively. Your original post seemed to generalised it as if it was the same as the knockdowns Hatton recently suffered etc and that is what I took issue with.

You don't need to go off on a tangent about relevant experience/attributed of Wlad mate, I am talking about nothing more than this 'knockdown'. I've stated several times that I have Haye as an underdog in this fight for reasons similar to your own but with enough attributes (speed, mobility etc) to at least have a good fighting chance.

[El Kabong]

I am saying a lack of skill (balance/footwork) not the lack of a physical attribute (chin/ability to take a punch[which he has shown a lack of before]) led to Barrett hitting Haye and David Haye landing on his ass and I am saying that this lack of skill is not good when you are fighting a fighter with Wladimir's talent.

[pacman79]

Haye training to combat Wlad's weapons (video) | Setanta

[El Kabong]

I am not really impressed with what they showed with Haye's training. I mean sure Wlad has a long jab and it's good and all but it's him hooking off the jab that should worry Haye and his trainer.

What's the story with Adam Booth anyway? Is Haye his first big time fighter or has he worked with other fighters who have had good success??

[skel1983]

I am not really impressed with what they showed with Haye's training. I mean sure Wlad has a long jab and it's good and all but it's him hooking off the jab that should worry Haye and his trainer.

What's the story with Adam Booth anyway? Is Haye his first big time fighter or has he worked with other fighters who have had good success??

I think Booths background is all to do with physical training and nutrition, please someone correct me if im wrong, he might of had some sort of dealings with martial arts aswell. But he has been with Haye since he picked him up as an am when he was 16 years old. But im pretty certain Haye was his first project as a boxing trainor.

[JazMerkin]

The long jab on a stick is something that's been used at my gym Fitzroy Lodge for a while. Both Booth & Haye came out of here so I'm guessing someone's picked 'em up on it. It actually is surprisingly painful when you get caught in the face with, seen bloody noses & badly split lips from it, although ours is on the end of a thick wooden stick

[skel1983]

I seriously see Haye getting blasted out in this fight.

[El Kabong]

I really hope David Haye ends up being a big SOMEBODY in the division but he will lose vs Wladimir right now. Do you guys remember when everyone said "Wlad isn't ready for Lennox Lewis" back in 2003...well that was when Wladimir had a record of 40-1 AT HEAVYWEIGHT....David Haye is 2-0 at heavyweight, he's 22-1 in his career, his amateur record is ...hell I have no idea about it, I know he lost a couple times (as amateurs do) but I don't know if he had a lot of fights and at what weight classes and vs who and what styles give him trouble etc.

Haye is the unknown...he's flashy and everything but right now he could be Mike Tyson or Audley Harrison or somewhere in the middle and that (somewhere in the middle) is where I have him pegged. I think Haye could beat some top guys but I also think some top guys could give him trouble...and the guys I would mention that would give him trouble would have people calling me a hater but I just call them on style/ability I we have seen.