Anybody think Pac has lost 5 fights and JMM has only lost 1??

[Julius Rain]

Probably the majority believe JMM won both fights with Pac and the majority think JMM was robbed against Chris John, so the would make their records as follows:

Pac 48-5-1

JMM 53 -1 (+ 1 DQ)

Actually it should be

Pac 53 - 1 if only pac knew when to move up division when his having a hard time making weight.

If pac started out with roach his whole career he could of been undefeated 54 - 0 bitches!

[Kel]

Probably the majority believe JMM won both fights with Pac and the majority think JMM was robbed against Chris John, so the would make their records as follows:

Pac 48-5-1

JMM 53 -1 (+ 1 DQ)

Actually it should be

Pac 53 - 1 if only pac knew when to move up division when his having a hard time making weight.

If pac started out with roach his whole career he could of been undefeated 54 - 0 bitches!

Saddoboxer has hacked this account!

[XaduBoxer]

Probably the majority believe JMM won both fights with Pac and the majority think JMM was robbed against Chris John, so the would make their records as follows:

Pac 48-5-1

JMM 53 -1 (+ 1 DQ)

Actually it should be

Pac 53 - 1 if only pac knew when to move up division when his having a hard time making weight.

If pac started out with roach his whole career he could of been undefeated 54 - 0 bitches!

Saddoboxer has hacked this account!

Me, hacker??

I already posted this on page 1 of this thread:

Converting 3 official losses to wins is a bit of a stretch eventhough those fights were close fights... I'm aware of this issue since I've read JMM claiming all his losses were robberies...

What this thing will tell us is, JMM most likely will lose a decision in a close fight... JMM's style is not judge friendly... Judges will not favor his counterpunching style against the one with more aggressive style of boxing... Better for JMM to really dominate or KO his opponent just like what he had done lately... With that said, I predict JMM will NOT win via decision over PBF (even if the 2 has similar styles, PBF just the more accurate counterpuncher)... He needs to KO/TKO the bigger PBF in order to get a victory...
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[Kel]

Actually it should be

Pac 53 - 1 if only pac knew when to move up division when his having a hard time making weight.

If pac started out with roach his whole career he could of been undefeated 54 - 0 bitches!

Saddoboxer has hacked this account!

Me, hacker??

I already posted this on page 1 of this thread:

Converting 3 official losses to wins is a bit of a stretch eventhough those fights were close fights... I'm aware of this issue since I've read JMM claiming all his losses were robberies...

What this thing will tell us is, JMM most likely will lose a decision in a close fight... JMM's style is not judge friendly... Judges will not favor his counterpunching style against the one with more aggressive style of boxing... Better for JMM to really dominate or KO his opponent just like what he had done lately... With that said, I predict JMM will NOT win via decision over PBF (even if the 2 has similar styles, PBF just the more accurate counterpuncher)... He needs to KO/TKO the bigger PBF in order to get a victory...
.

Saddoboxer has hijacked this account!

[Addicted to_boxing]

Because half of the people in latin america have spanish decent ? Are you kidding me !!!!! Are any of you aware of the large number of Japanese, Chinese, Portuguese, German, Lebanese and Jewish people in Latin America...... Then Filipinos are also Spanish or one could argue Chinese base on their cultural influence. Seems the majority of the people in here are unable to distinguish the difference between race and ethnicity.

Race is something you're born with an ethnicity is what your culture is. Like your race could be Chinese and your ethnicity could be American if you were born in America.

So how are Mexicans Spanish?

Let me educate you:

Mexican! Not Latino, Latinos are the white people of Latin America.
........... Not Hispanic, Hispanics are the people of Spain, European.

Mexicans are indigenous people! They are not white! So do not promote the cultural castration the their people!


To people of the USA, they are not foreigners to the land.


Mexican people of today are primarily a mixed blood and / or full blooded Indigenous people.

92% of the the so called Hispanics in Atzlan (the Southwestern USA) are people of Mexican descent. Not foreigners or minorities as generally labeled. They are also 71% of the so-called Hispanics/Latinos in the USA as a whole. So how wrong are you to call anyone in Latin America Spanish ? I say educate yourself before you make comments you know very little of and we are to believe you know anything about boxing?

Anyone of any color born in Mexico is viewed as a Mexican, ( This applies to most countries in Latin America) they are not race grouping individuals like people of the USA and their forefathers from Europe!

[Taeth]

Because half of the people in latin america have spanish decent ? Are you kidding me !!!!! Are any of you aware of the large number of Japanese, Chinese, Portuguese, German, Lebanese and Jewish people in Latin America...... Then Filipinos are also Spanish or one could argue Chinese base on their cultural influence. Seems the majority of the people in here are unable to distinguish the difference between race and ethnicity.

Race is something you're born with an ethnicity is what your culture is. Like your race could be Chinese and your ethnicity could be American if you were born in America.

So how are Mexicans Spanish?

Let me educate you:

Mexican! Not Latino, Latinos are the white people of Latin America.
........... Not Hispanic, Hispanics are the people of Spain, European.

Mexicans are indigenous people! They are not white! So do not promote the cultural castration the their people!


To people of the USA, they are not foreigners to the land.


Mexican people of today are primarily a mixed blood and / or full blooded Indigenous people.

92% of the the so called Hispanics in Atzlan (the Southwestern USA) are people of Mexican descent. Not foreigners or minorities as generally labeled. They are also 71% of the so-called Hispanics/Latinos in the USA as a whole. So how wrong are you to call anyone in Latin America Spanish ? I say educate yourself before you make comments you know very little of and we are to believe you know anything about boxing?

Anyone of any color born in Mexico is viewed as a Mexican, ( This applies to most countries in Latin America) they are not race grouping individuals like people of the USA and their forefathers from Europe!

Study anthropology, you can't educate me on this. There are virtually no true north american natives left in mexico except in secluded groups. The indeginous population was almost totally eradicated in mexico and the carribean islands. I've taken up to 400 level meso-american anthropology courses.

As for the culture, there is no north american culture that has been more assimilated by European people than the Mexican culture. Their religion is European, they beliefs are European. Once again out of all the partially aboriginal people, how many still believe in the Aztec gods? Many have reclaimed their culture for financial purposes, but still the majority of mexicans are christians who abide by the bibles' laws.

I am not trying to say Mexican haven't developed their own culture, but its more tied into their spanish ancestry than it is into their Mayan or Aztec ancesty.

[killersheep]

Because half of the people in latin america have spanish decent ? Are you kidding me !!!!! Are any of you aware of the large number of Japanese, Chinese, Portuguese, German, Lebanese and Jewish people in Latin America...... Then Filipinos are also Spanish or one could argue Chinese base on their cultural influence. Seems the majority of the people in here are unable to distinguish the difference between race and ethnicity.

Race is something you're born with an ethnicity is what your culture is. Like your race could be Chinese and your ethnicity could be American if you were born in America.

So how are Mexicans Spanish?

Let me educate you:

Mexican! Not Latino, Latinos are the white people of Latin America.
........... Not Hispanic, Hispanics are the people of Spain, European.

Mexicans are indigenous people! They are not white! So do not promote the cultural castration the their people!


To people of the USA, they are not foreigners to the land.


Mexican people of today are primarily a mixed blood and / or full blooded Indigenous people.

92% of the the so called Hispanics in Atzlan (the Southwestern USA) are people of Mexican descent. Not foreigners or minorities as generally labeled. They are also 71% of the so-called Hispanics/Latinos in the USA as a whole. So how wrong are you to call anyone in Latin America Spanish ? I say educate yourself before you make comments you know very little of and we are to believe you know anything about boxing?

Anyone of any color born in Mexico is viewed as a Mexican, ( This applies to most countries in Latin America) they are not race grouping individuals like people of the USA and their forefathers from Europe!

Study anthropology, you can't educate me on this. There are virtually no true north american natives left in mexico except in secluded groups. The indeginous population was almost totally eradicated in mexico and the carribean islands. I've taken up to 400 level meso-american anthropology courses.

As for the culture, there is no north american culture that has been more assimilated by European people than the Mexican culture. Their religion is European, they beliefs are European. Once again out of all the partially aboriginal people, how many still believe in the Aztec gods? Many have reclaimed their culture for financial purposes, but still the majority of mexicans are christians who abide by the bibles' laws.

I am not trying to say Mexican haven't developed their own culture, but its more tied into their spanish ancestry than it is into their Mayan or Aztec ancesty.

So because you've taken courses on it you know more about Mexico than Mexicans? WTF are you talking about anyway, you start off by making a statement that implies you discount anyones score because of their heritage. This further implies that an entire culture of people are unable to objectively score a fight. You further go on to say, it is impossible to go against your scoring beacause only your score is right. Would you deny there were enough swing rounds to give both fights to either fighter?

[ElTerribleMorales]

Probably the majority believe JMM won both fights with Pac and the majority think JMM was robbed against Chris John, so the would make their records as follows:

Pac 48-5-1

JMM 53 -1 (+ 1 DQ)

Actually it should be

Pac 53 - 1 if only pac knew when to move up division when his having a hard time making weight.

If pac started out with roach his whole career he could of been undefeated 54 - 0 bitches!

and if shit paid bills you'd be set, cause you're talkin loads of it buddy

[Julius Rain]

ok seriously have you guys ever wonder what if freddy roach was with pac his whole career.

JMM and other great fighters have been with their respected trainiers their whole career. Pac just began with roach during his first wars with the marco,jmm,eric. Just a thought....

[ElTerribleMorales]

ok seriously have you guys ever wonder what if freddy roach was with pac his whole career.

JMM and other great fighters have been with their respected trainiers their whole career. Pac just began with roach during his first wars with the marco,jmm,eric. Just a thought....

and here's the answer, people would have never been shocked by the drastic change in his fighting style and been so thrown off by it finding it so hard to adapt, they'd already know what to expect unlike now that he just keeps adding more to his game, so honestly i doubt he would of been undefeated by any means