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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Props to Kenny for interviewing are boxers, espn is the number 1 sporst channel in the states. anytime boxing gets time on i love it.

    I hope Shane gets a big fight, either pac or floyd. I really think shane deserves it but if he fights pac i will have a hard time rooting for either guy.

    Shane made a great point, the guys his been in the ring with floyd wants no part of. He just called floyd a pussy, like how i do sometimes

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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    I'm a fan of Shane and I think he is an ATG but he isn't beating Mayweather and I think fans are fooling themselves off of the Margarito performance. Shane didn't change anytime from the Cotto fight to the Mayorga fight, he just had a perfect opponent in Margarito in front of him to look spectacular against. Let's not forget the fact Cotto outboxed him and Mayorga gave him fits. Margarito is a slow methodical fighter, yeah he beat Cotto, Cotto isn't Shane Mosley but Cotto didn't try to outslug Sugar Shane he outboxed him, he outboxed Margarito early but then decided to try to outslug him and that was his downfall.

    I think if Mayorga's speed can give Mosley issues and if Miguel Cotto can outbox him then Floyd wouldn't have a problem. Remember Shane Mosley never changed, but his opponents did. So I'm noy buying into the hype that Mosley is the only guy at 147 that can beat Floyd.

    Besides if Floyd fought and beat Marquez and then Pacquiao and then fought and beat Mosley all the fans would do is say that Floyd waited too long to fight Shane and that Shane was over the hill. The same fans that said Mosley was over the hill after Wright and Cotto beat him are the people saying now that Mosley could beat Floyd 2 fights later, lol
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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    I like Shane and I wish he and Floyd would have fought at some point, but let's be honest, he failed to answer questions just as badly as Floyd did.

    Kenny asked Shane to respond to Floyd's statement that Shane's never been a PPV attraction. Shane responded by repeating about 5 times in a row that he sold out Staples Center against Margarito. Selling out an arena has nothing to do with PPV buys, and 90% of the crowd were Margarito fans. Shane didn't sellout the arena on his own. He dodged the question, just like Floyd dodged questions.

    Not to mention the fact that Shane lied repeatedly about the HGH/steroids scandal over the years.

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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    I like Shane and I wish he and Floyd would have fought at some point, but let's be honest, he failed to answer questions just as badly as Floyd did.

    Kenny asked Shane to respond to Floyd's statement that Shane's never been a PPV attraction. Shane responded by repeating about 5 times in a row that he sold out Staples Center against Margarito. Selling out an arena has nothing to do with PPV buys, and 90% of the crowd were Margarito fans. Shane didn't sellout the arena on his own. He dodged the question, just like Floyd dodged questions.

    Not to mention the fact that Shane lied repeatedly about the HGH/steroids scandal over the years.
    Just as when Floyd sold big vs Oscar it was because of Oscars fans. Shane also did big ppv vs Vargas but unless Floyd has a big name in the other corner he isnt a big attraction either .

    For Floyd to fight Marquez over Shane by saying he is a bigger ppv attraction is a joke. Marquez is a guy who went to Indionesia afew years ago for 30k. Floyd would have come away with more credit by saying he wants an easy warm up vs the lightweight champ before he takes on the welterweight champ. But to say its cuz Marquez has a country behind him etc is a poor excuse.

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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    I like Shane and I wish he and Floyd would have fought at some point, but let's be honest, he failed to answer questions just as badly as Floyd did.

    Kenny asked Shane to respond to Floyd's statement that Shane's never been a PPV attraction. Shane responded by repeating about 5 times in a row that he sold out Staples Center against Margarito. Selling out an arena has nothing to do with PPV buys, and 90% of the crowd were Margarito fans. Shane didn't sellout the arena on his own. He dodged the question, just like Floyd dodged questions.

    Not to mention the fact that Shane lied repeatedly about the HGH/steroids scandal over the years.
    Just as when Floyd sold big vs Oscar it was because of Oscars fans. Shane also did big ppv vs Vargas but unless Floyd has a big name in the other corner he isnt a big attraction either .

    For Floyd to fight Marquez over Shane by saying he is a bigger ppv attraction is a joke. Marquez is a guy who went to Indionesia afew years ago for 30k. Floyd would have come away with more credit by saying he wants an easy warm up vs the lightweight champ before he takes on the welterweight champ. But to say its cuz Marquez has a country behind him etc is a poor excuse.
    If Floyd called Marquez an easy warm-up people would rightly be disgusted. People say they give him more credit if he's honest, but that's what he does when he says that he fights for money. Also no way that Shane is anywhere near the attraction, if he was doing a training session in London, you would probably get about 100-200 people turning up & that's being optimistic. Floyd does one & a 1000+ people come along.

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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    I think Floyd is a once in a lifetime talent but I always judge him for not throwing himself in the mix when Cotto, Mosley, and Margarito were fighting each other. He said it himself, he's in it for the money, not glory.

    Floyd could and most likely would beat Cotto, Mosley, and Margarito but to have not tried at all bothers me a bit. He fought Baldomir, Judah, and Hatton at the welterweight division when the division was packed with bigger fighters for him to fight. And right now he steps back into the game fighting the LIGHTWEIGHT champion just adds on to the sour taste in my mouth.

    Floyd is one of my favorite fighters but if he's trying to make a legacy where he can call himself one of the greatest, that he isn't doing. He very well is one of the best skill wise, but legacy is in danger IMO.
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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea View Post
    I like Shane and I wish he and Floyd would have fought at some point, but let's be honest, he failed to answer questions just as badly as Floyd did.

    Kenny asked Shane to respond to Floyd's statement that Shane's never been a PPV attraction. Shane responded by repeating about 5 times in a row that he sold out Staples Center against Margarito. Selling out an arena has nothing to do with PPV buys, and 90% of the crowd were Margarito fans. Shane didn't sellout the arena on his own. He dodged the question, just like Floyd dodged questions.

    Not to mention the fact that Shane lied repeatedly about the HGH/steroids scandal over the years.
    Just as when Floyd sold big vs Oscar it was because of Oscars fans. Shane also did big ppv vs Vargas but unless Floyd has a big name in the other corner he isnt a big attraction either .

    For Floyd to fight Marquez over Shane by saying he is a bigger ppv attraction is a joke. Marquez is a guy who went to Indionesia afew years ago for 30k. Floyd would have come away with more credit by saying he wants an easy warm up vs the lightweight champ before he takes on the welterweight champ. But to say its cuz Marquez has a country behind him etc is a poor excuse.
    If Floyd called Marquez an easy warm-up people would rightly be disgusted. People say they give him more credit if he's honest, but that's what he does when he says that he fights for money. Also no way that Shane is anywhere near the attraction, if he was doing a training session in London, you would probably get about 100-200 people turning up & that's being optimistic. Floyd does one & a 1000+ people come along.
    I think thats more down to the Brits knowing Floyd through the Hatton fight. Had Shane knocked Hatton out he would be better known in London but I think Shane is more popular than Floyd. If someone did a poll of who is more liked Shane wins it hands down.

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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    I'm a fan of Shane and I think he is an ATG but he isn't beating Mayweather and I think fans are fooling themselves off of the Margarito performance. Shane didn't change anytime from the Cotto fight to the Mayorga fight, he just had a perfect opponent in Margarito in front of him to look spectacular against. Let's not forget the fact Cotto outboxed him and Mayorga gave him fits. Margarito is a slow methodical fighter, yeah he beat Cotto, Cotto isn't Shane Mosley but Cotto didn't try to outslug Sugar Shane he outboxed him, he outboxed Margarito early but then decided to try to outslug him and that was his downfall.

    I think if Mayorga's speed can give Mosley issues and if Miguel Cotto can outbox him then Floyd wouldn't have a problem. Remember Shane Mosley never changed, but his opponents did. So I'm noy buying into the hype that Mosley is the only guy at 147 that can beat Floyd.

    Besides if Floyd fought and beat Marquez and then Pacquiao and then fought and beat Mosley all the fans would do is say that Floyd waited too long to fight Shane and that Shane was over the hill. The same fans that said Mosley was over the hill after Wright and Cotto beat him are the people saying now that Mosley could beat Floyd 2 fights later, lol
    Very good point, Mosely always had trouble with boxers and not powerpunchers. That's why even though I'm rooting for him(Shane) I am still worried
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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    "All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

    Some facts:
    Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
    Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
    Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

    Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

    Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    "All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

    Some facts:
    Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
    Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
    Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

    Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

    Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND
    Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.
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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    "All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

    Some facts:
    Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
    Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
    Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

    Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

    Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND
    Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.
    Floyd WAS the True Welterweight champ after he beat Baldomir. That was the only time though. Then he chose to fight Oscar and Hatton, neither of whom were welterweight champions. Now its been three years since he was a legit Welterweight champion and he tries to act like he has done enough in that time to still be considered the best Welterweight in the world. He could have fought Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley, to prove that he really is the best but he didnt. He retired. And now hes back to fight a lightweight at Welterweight. Shane is right that if Floyd fought the same opposition as him, he would have loses too.
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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    "All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

    Some facts:
    Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
    Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
    Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

    Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

    Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND
    Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.
    Floyd WAS the True Welterweight champ after he beat Baldomir. That was the only time though. Then he chose to fight Oscar and Hatton, neither of whom were welterweight champions. Now its been three years since he was a legit Welterweight champion and he tries to act like he has done enough in that time to still be considered the best Welterweight in the world. He could have fought Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley, to prove that he really is the best but he didnt. He retired. And now hes back to fight a lightweight at Welterweight. Shane is right that if Floyd fought the same opposition as him, he would have loses too.
    Alright let me say it again.


    Cotto was considered inexperienced when Margarito beat him as the reason he lost, do you actually think if Floyd had fought and beat him sooner he'd have gotten any credit whatsoever for that win? Didn't think so, also people would have complained that Cotto had just moved up to 147.

    We already know Margarito's story.

    And as far as Mosley goes, no one was plowing for Mosley to fight Floyd at 147 after his fight with COllazo, and loss to Cotto, in fact people were calling Mosley over the hill especially after his fight with Mayorga and no one was clamoring for Floyd to fight Mosley, its only AFTER Mosley beat Margarito that people are stirring it up. SO you can't say he ducked or dodged mosley, the way Mosley was looking back then if Floyd had beat him no one would have given him credit theyd have said that he didnt look impressive against Collazo, that he lost to Cotto and struggled with Mayorga as an example of how past his best he is.
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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    "All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

    Some facts:
    Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
    Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
    Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

    Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

    Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND
    Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.
    Floyd WAS the True Welterweight champ after he beat Baldomir. That was the only time though. Then he chose to fight Oscar and Hatton, neither of whom were welterweight champions. Now its been three years since he was a legit Welterweight champion and he tries to act like he has done enough in that time to still be considered the best Welterweight in the world. He could have fought Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley, to prove that he really is the best but he didnt. He retired. And now hes back to fight a lightweight at Welterweight. Shane is right that if Floyd fought the same opposition as him, he would have loses too.
    He won the linear and ring championship from Baldomir and beat his predecessor Zab Judah before him. When did he have the oppertunity to fight Cotto? Cotto's defining fight was against Mosley, and that took place weeks if not a week before Mayweather-Hatton after which Mayweather retired. Margarito is obviously a joke, if he couldn't deal with Mosley's movement and defensive skills how would he land a punch on Mayweather? Let alone beat him... And no Mayweather didn't stick around, he went up to 154 to win a belt against Oscar De La Hoya who was arguably the best fighter at 154 at the time. Then he beat Hatton who people had wanted Floyd to fight for 4 or 5 years? Sure Mosley knocked out Mayorga, but that was in the twelth round, look at what Oscar did to Mayorga, and that was a better Mayorga.

    Also its ironic, Thought Mosley had already moved up to 147, Mayweather was calling him out to fight at 135-140ish, and Mosley refused saying he was p4p#1, and that Mayweather wasn't worth his time monetarily.
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    I like Mosley and he is my favorite fighter of all time. I am no big fan of PBF personally but I am not in denial of the man's talent. No way Mosley beats PBF. People are getting all riled up because everyone wants to see PBF punked or beat. Mosley is not that guy. He called out PBF and now everyone thinks PBF is scared. What about when PBF called out Mosley twice? Suddenly, everyone has amnesia. Mosley didn't just ignore it he flat out refused both times with excuses. The first time he said PBF wasn't a big enough draw and the second time he said he had to get his teeth fixed. People are really getting too drunk off the Margarito fight. Mosley is there to be outboxed. He is robotic and loads up every right hand. His jab is lazy and he moves right to you. Look at his last 3 fights not just his last fight. People got drunk on Hatton's last fight before Pac and that set him up for embarassment. Remember Cotto outboxed Mosley and Mayorga gave him fits. Mosley looks like every PBF hater's hero right now but no one said this after the Mayorga fight. Not to mention his limited boxing ability but Margarito minus the plaster is an ordinary fighter. And even though I am no fan of PBF's mouth he is right that Mosley is not a PPV draw. His fights with DLH made the numbers. After saying all this, as a fan I think PBF/Mosley should happen. It does make more sense fight wise than any other but money wise Pac/PBF is light years ahead of that.

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