Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

[GAME]

Shane is a legend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGzq...eature=related

[Majesty]

I'm a fan of Shane and I think he is an ATG but he isn't beating Mayweather and I think fans are fooling themselves off of the Margarito performance. Shane didn't change anytime from the Cotto fight to the Mayorga fight, he just had a perfect opponent in Margarito in front of him to look spectacular against. Let's not forget the fact Cotto outboxed him and Mayorga gave him fits. Margarito is a slow methodical fighter, yeah he beat Cotto, Cotto isn't Shane Mosley but Cotto didn't try to outslug Sugar Shane he outboxed him, he outboxed Margarito early but then decided to try to outslug him and that was his downfall.

I think if Mayorga's speed can give Mosley issues and if Miguel Cotto can outbox him then Floyd wouldn't have a problem. Remember Shane Mosley never changed, but his opponents did. So I'm noy buying into the hype that Mosley is the only guy at 147 that can beat Floyd.

Besides if Floyd fought and beat Marquez and then Pacquiao and then fought and beat Mosley all the fans would do is say that Floyd waited too long to fight Shane and that Shane was over the hill. The same fans that said Mosley was over the hill after Wright and Cotto beat him are the people saying now that Mosley could beat Floyd 2 fights later, lol

[SweetPea]

I like Shane and I wish he and Floyd would have fought at some point, but let's be honest, he failed to answer questions just as badly as Floyd did.

Kenny asked Shane to respond to Floyd's statement that Shane's never been a PPV attraction. Shane responded by repeating about 5 times in a row that he sold out Staples Center against Margarito. Selling out an arena has nothing to do with PPV buys, and 90% of the crowd were Margarito fans. Shane didn't sellout the arena on his own. He dodged the question, just like Floyd dodged questions.

Not to mention the fact that Shane lied repeatedly about the HGH/steroids scandal over the years.

[GAME]

I like Shane and I wish he and Floyd would have fought at some point, but let's be honest, he failed to answer questions just as badly as Floyd did.

Kenny asked Shane to respond to Floyd's statement that Shane's never been a PPV attraction. Shane responded by repeating about 5 times in a row that he sold out Staples Center against Margarito. Selling out an arena has nothing to do with PPV buys, and 90% of the crowd were Margarito fans. Shane didn't sellout the arena on his own. He dodged the question, just like Floyd dodged questions.

Not to mention the fact that Shane lied repeatedly about the HGH/steroids scandal over the years.

Just as when Floyd sold big vs Oscar it was because of Oscars fans. Shane also did big ppv vs Vargas but unless Floyd has a big name in the other corner he isnt a big attraction either .

For Floyd to fight Marquez over Shane by saying he is a bigger ppv attraction is a joke. Marquez is a guy who went to Indionesia afew years ago for 30k. Floyd would have come away with more credit by saying he wants an easy warm up vs the lightweight champ before he takes on the welterweight champ. But to say its cuz Marquez has a country behind him etc is a poor excuse.

[JazMerkin]

I like Shane and I wish he and Floyd would have fought at some point, but let's be honest, he failed to answer questions just as badly as Floyd did.

Kenny asked Shane to respond to Floyd's statement that Shane's never been a PPV attraction. Shane responded by repeating about 5 times in a row that he sold out Staples Center against Margarito. Selling out an arena has nothing to do with PPV buys, and 90% of the crowd were Margarito fans. Shane didn't sellout the arena on his own. He dodged the question, just like Floyd dodged questions.

Not to mention the fact that Shane lied repeatedly about the HGH/steroids scandal over the years.

Just as when Floyd sold big vs Oscar it was because of Oscars fans. Shane also did big ppv vs Vargas but unless Floyd has a big name in the other corner he isnt a big attraction either .

For Floyd to fight Marquez over Shane by saying he is a bigger ppv attraction is a joke. Marquez is a guy who went to Indionesia afew years ago for 30k. Floyd would have come away with more credit by saying he wants an easy warm up vs the lightweight champ before he takes on the welterweight champ. But to say its cuz Marquez has a country behind him etc is a poor excuse.

If Floyd called Marquez an easy warm-up people would rightly be disgusted. People say they give him more credit if he's honest, but that's what he does when he says that he fights for money. Also no way that Shane is anywhere near the attraction, if he was doing a training session in London, you would probably get about 100-200 people turning up & that's being optimistic. Floyd does one & a 1000+ people come along.

[C-Lo]

I think Floyd is a once in a lifetime talent but I always judge him for not throwing himself in the mix when Cotto, Mosley, and Margarito were fighting each other. He said it himself, he's in it for the money, not glory.

Floyd could and most likely would beat Cotto, Mosley, and Margarito but to have not tried at all bothers me a bit. He fought Baldomir, Judah, and Hatton at the welterweight division when the division was packed with bigger fighters for him to fight. And right now he steps back into the game fighting the LIGHTWEIGHT champion just adds on to the sour taste in my mouth.

Floyd is one of my favorite fighters but if he's trying to make a legacy where he can call himself one of the greatest, that he isn't doing. He very well is one of the best skill wise, but legacy is in danger IMO.

[BoomBoom]

C-lo thats exactly how I see it. He is obviously a talented fighter. Yes he probably would have beat 2 out of three of those guys, but thats a moot point. He didnt fight them, and that is where my criticism comes from. He has beem cradling his undefeated record for so long that he has put himself in a position that if he does lose at this point, his legacy will suffer greatly. If he loses now, much like Hatton, the glamour of being undefeated is gone and then people will start to really closely at his record, and his loss will stand out. Fighters that take chances, always fight the best and lose from time to time, are generally looked at kindly in the history books. The top 10 fighters of all time probably have at least 5 loses on their records. That was the cost of proving their greatness. Like badges of honor.

[GAME]

I like Shane and I wish he and Floyd would have fought at some point, but let's be honest, he failed to answer questions just as badly as Floyd did.

Kenny asked Shane to respond to Floyd's statement that Shane's never been a PPV attraction. Shane responded by repeating about 5 times in a row that he sold out Staples Center against Margarito. Selling out an arena has nothing to do with PPV buys, and 90% of the crowd were Margarito fans. Shane didn't sellout the arena on his own. He dodged the question, just like Floyd dodged questions.

Not to mention the fact that Shane lied repeatedly about the HGH/steroids scandal over the years.

Just as when Floyd sold big vs Oscar it was because of Oscars fans. Shane also did big ppv vs Vargas but unless Floyd has a big name in the other corner he isnt a big attraction either .

For Floyd to fight Marquez over Shane by saying he is a bigger ppv attraction is a joke. Marquez is a guy who went to Indionesia afew years ago for 30k. Floyd would have come away with more credit by saying he wants an easy warm up vs the lightweight champ before he takes on the welterweight champ. But to say its cuz Marquez has a country behind him etc is a poor excuse.

If Floyd called Marquez an easy warm-up people would rightly be disgusted. People say they give him more credit if he's honest, but that's what he does when he says that he fights for money. Also no way that Shane is anywhere near the attraction, if he was doing a training session in London, you would probably get about 100-200 people turning up & that's being optimistic. Floyd does one & a 1000+ people come along.

I think thats more down to the Brits knowing Floyd through the Hatton fight. Had Shane knocked Hatton out he would be better known in London but I think Shane is more popular than Floyd. If someone did a poll of who is more liked Shane wins it hands down.

[JazMerkin]

Just as when Floyd sold big vs Oscar it was because of Oscars fans. Shane also did big ppv vs Vargas but unless Floyd has a big name in the other corner he isnt a big attraction either .

For Floyd to fight Marquez over Shane by saying he is a bigger ppv attraction is a joke. Marquez is a guy who went to Indionesia afew years ago for 30k. Floyd would have come away with more credit by saying he wants an easy warm up vs the lightweight champ before he takes on the welterweight champ. But to say its cuz Marquez has a country behind him etc is a poor excuse.

If Floyd called Marquez an easy warm-up people would rightly be disgusted. People say they give him more credit if he's honest, but that's what he does when he says that he fights for money. Also no way that Shane is anywhere near the attraction, if he was doing a training session in London, you would probably get about 100-200 people turning up & that's being optimistic. Floyd does one & a 1000+ people come along.

I think thats more down to the Brits knowing Floyd through the Hatton fight. Had Shane knocked Hatton out he would be better known in London but I think Shane is more popular than Floyd. If someone did a poll of who is more liked Shane wins it hands down.

Nope, a very big number of those there are kids from the inner-cities like myself, a lot of who know Floyd more because he rolls with people in rap & because of his success. Where I live Mayweather is WAY more popular than Hatton, in fact I'd say people who wouldn't know who Hatton or Calzaghe is, know Floyd Mayweather. He's by far the most popular boxer for younger people, for most of whom Shane Mosley just doesn't register. Mosley may be more popular among boxing fans, but not the general public.

[Pavlik]

I'm a fan of Shane and I think he is an ATG but he isn't beating Mayweather and I think fans are fooling themselves off of the Margarito performance. Shane didn't change anytime from the Cotto fight to the Mayorga fight, he just had a perfect opponent in Margarito in front of him to look spectacular against. Let's not forget the fact Cotto outboxed him and Mayorga gave him fits. Margarito is a slow methodical fighter, yeah he beat Cotto, Cotto isn't Shane Mosley but Cotto didn't try to outslug Sugar Shane he outboxed him, he outboxed Margarito early but then decided to try to outslug him and that was his downfall.

I think if Mayorga's speed can give Mosley issues and if Miguel Cotto can outbox him then Floyd wouldn't have a problem. Remember Shane Mosley never changed, but his opponents did. So I'm noy buying into the hype that Mosley is the only guy at 147 that can beat Floyd.

Besides if Floyd fought and beat Marquez and then Pacquiao and then fought and beat Mosley all the fans would do is say that Floyd waited too long to fight Shane and that Shane was over the hill. The same fans that said Mosley was over the hill after Wright and Cotto beat him are the people saying now that Mosley could beat Floyd 2 fights later, lol

Very good point, Mosely always had trouble with boxers and not powerpunchers. That's why even though I'm rooting for him(Shane) I am still worried

[BoomBoom]

"All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

Some facts:
Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND

[Majesty]

"All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

Some facts:
Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND

Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.

[BoomBoom]

"All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

Some facts:
Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND

Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.

Floyd WAS the True Welterweight champ after he beat Baldomir. That was the only time though. Then he chose to fight Oscar and Hatton, neither of whom were welterweight champions. Now its been three years since he was a legit Welterweight champion and he tries to act like he has done enough in that time to still be considered the best Welterweight in the world. He could have fought Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley, to prove that he really is the best but he didnt. He retired. And now hes back to fight a lightweight at Welterweight. Shane is right that if Floyd fought the same opposition as him, he would have loses too.

[Majesty]

"All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

Some facts:
Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND

Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.

Floyd WAS the True Welterweight champ after he beat Baldomir. That was the only time though. Then he chose to fight Oscar and Hatton, neither of whom were welterweight champions. Now its been three years since he was a legit Welterweight champion and he tries to act like he has done enough in that time to still be considered the best Welterweight in the world. He could have fought Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley, to prove that he really is the best but he didnt. He retired. And now hes back to fight a lightweight at Welterweight. Shane is right that if Floyd fought the same opposition as him, he would have loses too.

Alright let me say it again.


Cotto was considered inexperienced when Margarito beat him as the reason he lost, do you actually think if Floyd had fought and beat him sooner he'd have gotten any credit whatsoever for that win? Didn't think so, also people would have complained that Cotto had just moved up to 147.

We already know Margarito's story.

And as far as Mosley goes, no one was plowing for Mosley to fight Floyd at 147 after his fight with COllazo, and loss to Cotto, in fact people were calling Mosley over the hill especially after his fight with Mayorga and no one was clamoring for Floyd to fight Mosley, its only AFTER Mosley beat Margarito that people are stirring it up. SO you can't say he ducked or dodged mosley, the way Mosley was looking back then if Floyd had beat him no one would have given him credit theyd have said that he didnt look impressive against Collazo, that he lost to Cotto and struggled with Mayorga as an example of how past his best he is.

[BoomBoom]

Cotto was considered inexperienced when he lost to Margarito? Thats the first ive heard that. Pretty ridiculous if people actually thought that with all of Cottos amateur and pro fights including many championship fights. I dont think were going to reach a point of agreement, but Cotto, Margarito, and Mosley were all the man of the division at one point, hand Floyd never persued them when they were. Now Shane is the king of the mountain. Not Floyd.