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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
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    "All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

    Some facts:
    Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
    Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
    Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

    Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

    Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND
    Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.
    Floyd WAS the True Welterweight champ after he beat Baldomir. That was the only time though. Then he chose to fight Oscar and Hatton, neither of whom were welterweight champions. Now its been three years since he was a legit Welterweight champion and he tries to act like he has done enough in that time to still be considered the best Welterweight in the world. He could have fought Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley, to prove that he really is the best but he didnt. He retired. And now hes back to fight a lightweight at Welterweight. Shane is right that if Floyd fought the same opposition as him, he would have loses too.
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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    "All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

    Some facts:
    Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
    Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
    Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

    Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

    Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND
    Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.
    Floyd WAS the True Welterweight champ after he beat Baldomir. That was the only time though. Then he chose to fight Oscar and Hatton, neither of whom were welterweight champions. Now its been three years since he was a legit Welterweight champion and he tries to act like he has done enough in that time to still be considered the best Welterweight in the world. He could have fought Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley, to prove that he really is the best but he didnt. He retired. And now hes back to fight a lightweight at Welterweight. Shane is right that if Floyd fought the same opposition as him, he would have loses too.
    Alright let me say it again.


    Cotto was considered inexperienced when Margarito beat him as the reason he lost, do you actually think if Floyd had fought and beat him sooner he'd have gotten any credit whatsoever for that win? Didn't think so, also people would have complained that Cotto had just moved up to 147.

    We already know Margarito's story.

    And as far as Mosley goes, no one was plowing for Mosley to fight Floyd at 147 after his fight with COllazo, and loss to Cotto, in fact people were calling Mosley over the hill especially after his fight with Mayorga and no one was clamoring for Floyd to fight Mosley, its only AFTER Mosley beat Margarito that people are stirring it up. SO you can't say he ducked or dodged mosley, the way Mosley was looking back then if Floyd had beat him no one would have given him credit theyd have said that he didnt look impressive against Collazo, that he lost to Cotto and struggled with Mayorga as an example of how past his best he is.
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    Cotto was considered inexperienced when he lost to Margarito? Thats the first ive heard that. Pretty ridiculous if people actually thought that with all of Cottos amateur and pro fights including many championship fights. I dont think were going to reach a point of agreement, but Cotto, Margarito, and Mosley were all the man of the division at one point, hand Floyd never persued them when they were. Now Shane is the king of the mountain. Not Floyd.
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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Cotto was considered inexperienced when he lost to Margarito? Thats the first ive heard that. Pretty ridiculous if people actually thought that with all of Cottos amateur and pro fights including many championship fights.
    Ya, he definitely wasn't considered inexperienced against Margarito. Cotto actually had more big fight experience than Margarito did. Cotto had already headlined 2 big PPVs before against Zab and Shane.
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    Well i be pulling for Mosley think prime for prime Mosley could of beat Floyde but by the time they fight how old is Mosley going be lol. Mean if it comes off it could be atleast a year maybe even more i am guessing mean Molsey going to be like what 38 39 i mean he getting up there lol. As for the Cotto fight i thought Mosley won it was close Maygra rwas much latger then Mosley was he came in like at 170 be still got knocked out. As fof Margarito everthing is just speculation over all his fights but no fighter has ever knocked him out and plaster or not did not help Margaritos chin think people downplay this win more then they get hype from it.

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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    "All of those guys beat each other but nobody beat Floyd Mayweather" -PBF

    Some facts:
    Cotto beat Mosley for the True Welterweight title
    Margarito beat Cotto for the True Welterweight title
    Mosley beat Margarito for the True Welterweight title

    Somewhere during all of this Floyd Mayweather beats Light Welterweight champion Ricky Hatton for a Vacant Welterweight Title

    Floyd is correct, none of those guys did beat him. LEGEND
    Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.
    Floyd WAS the True Welterweight champ after he beat Baldomir. That was the only time though. Then he chose to fight Oscar and Hatton, neither of whom were welterweight champions. Now its been three years since he was a legit Welterweight champion and he tries to act like he has done enough in that time to still be considered the best Welterweight in the world. He could have fought Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley, to prove that he really is the best but he didnt. He retired. And now hes back to fight a lightweight at Welterweight. Shane is right that if Floyd fought the same opposition as him, he would have loses too.
    He won the linear and ring championship from Baldomir and beat his predecessor Zab Judah before him. When did he have the oppertunity to fight Cotto? Cotto's defining fight was against Mosley, and that took place weeks if not a week before Mayweather-Hatton after which Mayweather retired. Margarito is obviously a joke, if he couldn't deal with Mosley's movement and defensive skills how would he land a punch on Mayweather? Let alone beat him... And no Mayweather didn't stick around, he went up to 154 to win a belt against Oscar De La Hoya who was arguably the best fighter at 154 at the time. Then he beat Hatton who people had wanted Floyd to fight for 4 or 5 years? Sure Mosley knocked out Mayorga, but that was in the twelth round, look at what Oscar did to Mayorga, and that was a better Mayorga.

    Also its ironic, Thought Mosley had already moved up to 147, Mayweather was calling him out to fight at 135-140ish, and Mosley refused saying he was p4p#1, and that Mayweather wasn't worth his time monetarily.
    Last edited by Taeth; 05-24-2009 at 03:42 AM.

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    Default Re: Brian Kenny gets reaction from Shane Mosley

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post

    Floyd Mayweather had already won the True Welterweight title, he was the Undisputed Welter champ whether you like it or not. And Hatton was THE Light Welterweight champion as well and was thought to be the best at that weight and was the guy who beat Kostya Tszyu and the guy people bashed Floyd for not fighting. He fought and knocked him out now people wanna downplay those wins. Floyd is absolutely right that he gets no credit for his wins.
    Floyd WAS the True Welterweight champ after he beat Baldomir. That was the only time though. Then he chose to fight Oscar and Hatton, neither of whom were welterweight champions. Now its been three years since he was a legit Welterweight champion and he tries to act like he has done enough in that time to still be considered the best Welterweight in the world. He could have fought Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley, to prove that he really is the best but he didnt. He retired. And now hes back to fight a lightweight at Welterweight. Shane is right that if Floyd fought the same opposition as him, he would have loses too.
    He won the linear and ring championship from Baldomir and beat his predecessor Zab Judah before him. When did he have the oppertunity to fight Cotto? Cotto's defining fight was against Mosley, and that took place weeks if not a week before Mayweather-Hatton after which Mayweather retired. Margarito is obviously a joke, if he couldn't deal with Mosley's movement and defensive skills how would he land a punch on Mayweather? Let alone beat him... And no Mayweather didn't stick around, he went up to 154 to win a belt against Oscar De La Hoya who was arguably the best fighter at 154 at the time. Then he beat Hatton who people had wanted Floyd to fight for 4 or 5 years? Sure Mosley knocked out Mayorga, but that was in the twelth round, look at what Oscar did to Mayorga, and that was a better Mayorga.

    Also its ironic, Thought Mosley had already moved up to 147, Mayweather was calling him out to fight at 135-140ish, and Mosley refused saying he was p4p#1, and that Mayweather wasn't worth his time monetarily.

    I wouldnt listen to Floyd haters really. If Floyd had moved up and beat Cory Spinks who was the best at 154 they would have just said that Spinks was nothing special and he should have fought Oscar. It doesn't matter. People try to say the belts dont matter so you fight this guy and that guy but when Floyd fights and beats them they say "What about the guy holding the belt there" etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Floyd WAS the True Welterweight champ after he beat Baldomir. That was the only time though. Then he chose to fight Oscar and Hatton, neither of whom were welterweight champions. Now its been three years since he was a legit Welterweight champion and he tries to act like he has done enough in that time to still be considered the best Welterweight in the world. He could have fought Margarito, Cotto, or Mosley, to prove that he really is the best but he didnt. He retired. And now hes back to fight a lightweight at Welterweight. Shane is right that if Floyd fought the same opposition as him, he would have loses too.
    He won the linear and ring championship from Baldomir and beat his predecessor Zab Judah before him. When did he have the oppertunity to fight Cotto? Cotto's defining fight was against Mosley, and that took place weeks if not a week before Mayweather-Hatton after which Mayweather retired. Margarito is obviously a joke, if he couldn't deal with Mosley's movement and defensive skills how would he land a punch on Mayweather? Let alone beat him... And no Mayweather didn't stick around, he went up to 154 to win a belt against Oscar De La Hoya who was arguably the best fighter at 154 at the time. Then he beat Hatton who people had wanted Floyd to fight for 4 or 5 years? Sure Mosley knocked out Mayorga, but that was in the twelth round, look at what Oscar did to Mayorga, and that was a better Mayorga.

    Also its ironic, Thought Mosley had already moved up to 147, Mayweather was calling him out to fight at 135-140ish, and Mosley refused saying he was p4p#1, and that Mayweather wasn't worth his time monetarily.

    I wouldnt listen to Floyd haters really. If Floyd had moved up and beat Cory Spinks who was the best at 154 they would have just said that Spinks was nothing special and he should have fought Oscar. It doesn't matter. People try to say the belts dont matter so you fight this guy and that guy but when Floyd fights and beats them they say "What about the guy holding the belt there" etc.
    Floyd is the one who insists he is as great as the likes of SRL.

    He also insists he is the 'cash cow' of boxing, which he clearly isn't.

    He has avoided Cotto, Margarito and Mosley when they were all fighting each.

    He still says he is the best P4P fighter in the world, like boxing was somehow frozen in time in his absence.

    Says Mosley is not 'worthy' due to having 5 losses on his record. Gatti and Baldomir must have been lucky......or was it Gatti's popularity and a piss poor undisputed champ that swayed him?

    These are my MAJOR beefs regarding Floyd.



    He is an exeptional talent but too shit scared of losing his 0, so we won't ever find out how great he could of been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post

    He won the linear and ring championship from Baldomir and beat his predecessor Zab Judah before him. When did he have the oppertunity to fight Cotto? Cotto's defining fight was against Mosley, and that took place weeks if not a week before Mayweather-Hatton after which Mayweather retired. Margarito is obviously a joke, if he couldn't deal with Mosley's movement and defensive skills how would he land a punch on Mayweather? Let alone beat him... And no Mayweather didn't stick around, he went up to 154 to win a belt against Oscar De La Hoya who was arguably the best fighter at 154 at the time. Then he beat Hatton who people had wanted Floyd to fight for 4 or 5 years? Sure Mosley knocked out Mayorga, but that was in the twelth round, look at what Oscar did to Mayorga, and that was a better Mayorga.

    Also its ironic, Thought Mosley had already moved up to 147, Mayweather was calling him out to fight at 135-140ish, and Mosley refused saying he was p4p#1, and that Mayweather wasn't worth his time monetarily.

    I wouldnt listen to Floyd haters really. If Floyd had moved up and beat Cory Spinks who was the best at 154 they would have just said that Spinks was nothing special and he should have fought Oscar. It doesn't matter. People try to say the belts dont matter so you fight this guy and that guy but when Floyd fights and beats them they say "What about the guy holding the belt there" etc.
    Floyd is the one who insists he is as great as the likes of SRL.

    He also insists he is the 'cash cow' of boxing, which he clearly isn't.

    He has avoided Cotto, Margarito and Mosley when they were all fighting each.

    He still says he is the best P4P fighter in the world, like boxing was somehow frozen in time in his absence.

    Says Mosley is not 'worthy' due to having 5 losses on his record. Gatti and Baldomir must have been lucky......or was it Gatti's popularity and a piss poor undisputed champ that swayed him?

    These are my MAJOR beefs regarding Floyd.



    He is an exeptional talent but too shit scared of losing his 0, so we won't ever find out how great he could of been.
    You should understand that a fighter needs to call you out in order for you to duck them. Floyd was calling Mosley out when he was at the lower weights and it never happened. And No one was clamoring for Mosley to fight Floyd after he lost to Wright, or after he lost to Cotto or looked average against Mayorga. They ONLY started begging for it after Mosley stopped Margarito and Mayweather was already retired. So people need to stop acting like Floyd was ducking Mosley. As far as I know Cotto never tried to make the fight with Mayweather. When Cotto was taking step up fights against Zab Judah was when Floyd was at 154 and fighting Oscar De La Hoya and then he fought Hatton and retired. So I can't think of a time Floyd would duck Cotto, if you got one tell me. And can we stop bringing up Margarito already? That dead horse has been beaten to death.
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    Didn't Mosley turn a fight with Floyd down once because he said he had toothache, or some similar bs excuse?

    I've got to say I'm surprised with all these ESPN boxing interviews. I think GBP are behind this, they're doing everything they can to get their promotions more mainstream publicity. It's strange how suddenly Shane Mosley's next fight options have become worthy of national speculation and it does look like Mosley is just there doing a bit of promotion work. IIRC Oscar is friendly with one of the top executives at Disney who own ESPN. It's all good news for boxing anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post


    I wouldnt listen to Floyd haters really. If Floyd had moved up and beat Cory Spinks who was the best at 154 they would have just said that Spinks was nothing special and he should have fought Oscar. It doesn't matter. People try to say the belts dont matter so you fight this guy and that guy but when Floyd fights and beats them they say "What about the guy holding the belt there" etc.
    Floyd is the one who insists he is as great as the likes of SRL.

    He also insists he is the 'cash cow' of boxing, which he clearly isn't.

    He has avoided Cotto, Margarito and Mosley when they were all fighting each.

    He still says he is the best P4P fighter in the world, like boxing was somehow frozen in time in his absence.

    Says Mosley is not 'worthy' due to having 5 losses on his record. Gatti and Baldomir must have been lucky......or was it Gatti's popularity and a piss poor undisputed champ that swayed him?

    These are my MAJOR beefs regarding Floyd.



    He is an exeptional talent but too shit scared of losing his 0, so we won't ever find out how great he could of been.
    You should understand that a fighter needs to call you out in order for you to duck them. Floyd was calling Mosley out when he was at the lower weights and it never happened. And No one was clamoring for Mosley to fight Floyd after he lost to Wright, or after he lost to Cotto or looked average against Mayorga. They ONLY started begging for it after Mosley stopped Margarito and Mayweather was already retired. So people need to stop acting like Floyd was ducking Mosley. As far as I know Cotto never tried to make the fight with Mayweather. When Cotto was taking step up fights against Zab Judah was when Floyd was at 154 and fighting Oscar De La Hoya and then he fought Hatton and retired. So I can't think of a time Floyd would duck Cotto, if you got one tell me. And can we stop bringing up Margarito already? That dead horse has been beaten to death.

    Floyd Mayweather JR despite how good he is in the ring has made a career of picking fights at the right time or targeting the right champion at their weakest.


    I will not make the the arguement let the record speak for itself. Do the research, see what was going on with his opponents personal lives at the time of the signing of the fights.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Floyd is the one who insists he is as great as the likes of SRL.

    He also insists he is the 'cash cow' of boxing, which he clearly isn't.

    He has avoided Cotto, Margarito and Mosley when they were all fighting each.

    He still says he is the best P4P fighter in the world, like boxing was somehow frozen in time in his absence.

    Says Mosley is not 'worthy' due to having 5 losses on his record. Gatti and Baldomir must have been lucky......or was it Gatti's popularity and a piss poor undisputed champ that swayed him?

    These are my MAJOR beefs regarding Floyd.



    He is an exeptional talent but too shit scared of losing his 0, so we won't ever find out how great he could of been.
    You should understand that a fighter needs to call you out in order for you to duck them. Floyd was calling Mosley out when he was at the lower weights and it never happened. And No one was clamoring for Mosley to fight Floyd after he lost to Wright, or after he lost to Cotto or looked average against Mayorga. They ONLY started begging for it after Mosley stopped Margarito and Mayweather was already retired. So people need to stop acting like Floyd was ducking Mosley. As far as I know Cotto never tried to make the fight with Mayweather. When Cotto was taking step up fights against Zab Judah was when Floyd was at 154 and fighting Oscar De La Hoya and then he fought Hatton and retired. So I can't think of a time Floyd would duck Cotto, if you got one tell me. And can we stop bringing up Margarito already? That dead horse has been beaten to death.

    Floyd Mayweather JR despite how good he is in the ring has made a career of picking fights at the right time or targeting the right champion at their weakest.


    I will not make the the arguement let the record speak for itself. Do the research, see what was going on with his opponents personal lives at the time of the signing of the fights.....
    look at what was going on in the personal life of Marco Antonio Barerra prior to the first Pacquiao fight. But I don't see anyone complaining about that
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