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im pretty much just going on both of the guys performances at 126
i always thought floyd was more about speed and the ability he had to fight off the back foot rather than marquez who quite often saw off opposition by blowing them away with his strength and hand speed.
Wouldnt be surprised one bit if floyd does become the dominant fighter from the word go as he is far more established at 147. But if marq can manage to use the extra weight to his advantage he might just have a chance!!
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Who's has the toughest chin among the PBF opponentsDid PBF Ko them??
Castillo, DLH & Famoso were the toughest Chin among PBF's opponents. Hatton & Chico stopped Castillo but PBF can't. Pac stopped DLH. PBF Can't. Famoso KD by Pac's Brother. PBF can't even drop Famoso.
Now look at JMM's resume? JMM the only one who stopped Diaz & Casamayor. Do you think PBF's capable of Koing both guys? I don't hink so!!
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Who's has the toughest chin among the PBF opponentsDid PBF Ko them??
Castillo, DLH & Famoso were the toughest Chin among PBF's opponents. Hatton & Chico stopped Castillo but PBF can't. Pac stopped DLH. PBF Can't. Famoso KD by Pac's Brother. PBF can't even drop Famoso.
Now look at JMM's resume? JMM the only one who stopped Diaz & Casamayor. Do you think PBF's capable of Koing both guys? I don't hink so!![/quote]
I'm a Pac fan but take those blinkers off!
1/ Mayweather fought Oscar at 154,he was much closer to his prime and NOT weightdrained.Pac fought an absolute shell of Oscar at 147 + Roach's 'rules'.Any decent fighter north of 135 would have beat Oscar that night.He was a walking punchbag.
2/ Mayweather fought a prime Castillo at his best weight.Hatton fought a shot Castillo at a weight where he was uneffective. Chico v Castillo - total war,either man could of went,both men exhausted.
Champions aren't made in gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them - a desire, a dream, a vision.
I'm not sure there's a more accurate puncher in boxing than Marquez
speed though obviously is in Floyd's favor.
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hahah, what a stupid comparison.. i like how you used the word "can't" also.. PBF DIDN'T (not can't) knock those guys out, but if you think he is physically unable to then you're crazy..
If you can't tell the difference in Pac's style compared to PBF's style then you are a disgrace as a boxing fan.. Floyd fights technically, and as far as i'm concerned, he plans to go 12 rounds in every fight.. if the KO comes then it comes, if not he's fighting for the decision. Pacquaio is just balls to the wall offense the entire fight, vs Floyd's defense/counter punching the entire fight.. BIT of a difference.
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Said it before but I think this is a prime example of Mayweathers tip toeing through the tulips and cherry picking on what he percieves to be an easy mark.Dont get me wrong,Marquez is no flower and certainly is no cherry....he's also not a 140 + fighter who can retain his peak form at that weighty range with added years Imo.
I think this strictly boils down to Mayweather feeling as though Pacquiao has blazed past him in the spotlight and is looking to achieve some familiarity relating to Manny ventured against a key Nemesis and reclaim his throne in the mythical p4p ranks.All the while looking ahead to a mega showdown with the new cash cow Pacquiao.
As far as punching,speed etc.Think JMM will be a bit stiff here,packed too tight with that weight,movement heavy a foot but I think Marquez is def the more precise and willing puncher shot for shot.He focuses on one or two punches once he zeros in on a guys holes in their armor.As of late,he looks to be sitting more in the pocket but remains a sharpshooter over and under,while taking a bit more in return.He is a kingpin at capitalizing on his round to round progression/momentum & looks to press his advantages where as Mayweather is content to flurrie with better blazing hand speed,make an impact and then move out,admires his work...looks to reset off backfoot....almost punches from the backseat.He'll come in and bomb,the Ndou fight springs up,but its not in his nature.. much more content to score points unless he is in absolute obvious pot shot at will control most of the time.In this one,I think he needs to look explosive and potent...that slip & slide-countering-look great another day attitude has worn a bit thin.
Last edited by Spicoli; 05-28-2009 at 12:51 PM.
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Floyd doesn't cherry pick IMO, I think he just picks certain fights at certain times that make them the biggest fight possible.
Was there a better moment for him to face Judah(well obviously before Baldomir beat him), or Baldomir or Oscar or Hatton? Mayweather has picked his opponents based on timing not cherry picking IMO, I think he would fight anyone under the right circumstances and thats what he says.
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floyd has the speed
jmm has the accuracy
but when they fight each other floyd will have both and jmm wont be so accurate against floyds tight defense.
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