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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    Actually, it's all sour grapes. Hatton is OK. I am still somewhat surprised he beat ANY version of Tszyu, but he did. Anyway, they fought he won. As far as Tszyu's career goes, I think the selection panel at the hall of fame will have no trouble inducting him.

    I have found some of the highlights of Pacquiaos victory amusing. I suppose Tszyu was never flogged that bad, but there was another Australian boxer Fenech years ago who was a triplle weight world champ in the rugged brawler mode of Hatton who got done.

    It was no joy, but I suppose it's harder for brawlers. Does he have it in him to go on. It will be tough. He'll need ample time to see if he wants to try. Certainly he doesn't need the money, and even these lesser fighters with a belt at 140, he's fighting for a fraction of what he has already made. It's all well for others to say one more time, but you should be careful. One more time assuming he's the old guy, not a changed fighter.

    Good luck, commiserations, he had a great victory, much as I didn't like seeing what I thought was a greater fighter lose, he did lose. Hatton has been entertaining enough, and he was the better man when they fought. Does that get Ricky into the hall of fame, who cares I suppose. He gets into his countrymans thoughts, he beat a great fighter. He is rich for his efforts.

    I suppose, well done, he has been good to watch

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    QUOTE: It's getting boring

    True, is infact...Hattons loss to Pacquaio, although I thought he'd lose by way of decision was dramatic. It was humbling, and various funny clips have been made as a result. I would concur, it's now starting to be done to death..

    I quit while I am behind, as I don't mind Ricky, though certainly had a good dig. I dont know where he goes from here. Maybe he wants a last fight for pride, maybe he's satisfied he's done enough. We'll see.

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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    Mid thirties Vince Phillips beat the shit out of a 28-year-old Kostya. Where's the old-age excuse there?

    Hatton beat the shit out of Kostya forcing him to quit. The fact old Phillips beat the shit out of him too can only mean Tszyu is one of the most OVERRATED fighters of all time NOT the greatest. Fact.
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    NOPE..........he lost to Philips, period. It was a technical knockout. He looked OK up till midway v Phillips. He just lost that one, for whetever reason. In examining his career, it speaks for itself.

    Losing to Hatton, he Quit, no protest o9n his behalf. If that called getting beat to death still on your feet, Hatton was dropped by a much lighter punching guy twice in r0ound 1, and was put out for munuted with the KO.

    Same, Tszyu lost to Hatton on the night. Interms of beating the man making you the man, the resumes for both guys will be judged accordingly. Other guys will bring up clips for you. So far one guy will get into the hall of fame. Hatton, does he want to go to the hall of fame, I dont know. He may need to do more, but I am not the judge at Canastota.

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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    I'm finding hard to remember a single person who suggested Tszyu was old before the Hatton fight, it's great to wise after the even

    What I remember is nearly everybody saying Tszyu would destroy Hatton and that Tszyu looked at his peak against Mitchell 7 months earlier. I always wonder what happend in those 7 months that suddenly made Tszyu old and shot

    He spent his whole career at one weight, so there were not issues with weight draining etc, he was only 35, had only had 31 fights (7 less that Hatton) and he wasn't it wasn't like his fights were wars that would catch up on you. Hopkins hadn't even fought Trinidad buy the time he was 35.

    And those names on Tszyu's resume could have exactly the same arguments applied to them as you have applied to Hatton's opposition. Seriously mate, Zab Judah and Sharmba Mitchell as his best career opponents

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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    I'm finding hard to remember a single person who suggested Tszyu was old before the Hatton fight, it's great to wise after the even
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    I like poking holes in this one. Fact is, we are in a lot better position to judge whether or not TSZYU is past it after seeing him fight, no?

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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    I'm finding hard to remember a single person who suggested Tszyu was old before the Hatton fight, it's great to wise after the even
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    I like poking holes in this one. Fact is, we are in a lot better position to judge whether or not TSZYU is past it after seeing him fight, no?
    It's just very convenient. Besides Tszyu never made any suggestions that it was a fight too many for him.

    There is no evidence or circumstances that would make him past it

    Only35 years old
    31 fights
    No wars
    Just coming off arguably best career performances

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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.

    The facts are..

    Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.

    Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.

    Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.

    Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.
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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.

    The facts are..

    Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.

    Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.

    Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.

    Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.
    I agree with that. Although I am basing that on a.) losing to Hatton, b.) losing to Philips and c.) far from great opposition.

    I may be doing him an injustice, because he could only beat (sometimes ) the man infront of him and had he fought some ATGs who's to say he wouldn't have beaten them - we just don't know.


    PS Putting "Fact" and then "IMO"

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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    Hatton has always been a B level fighter.

    He was good but never great.

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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.

    The facts are..

    Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.

    Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.

    Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.

    Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.
    I agree with that. Although I am basing that on a.) losing to Hatton, b.) losing to Philips and c.) far from great opposition.

    I may be doing him an injustice, because he could only beat (sometimes ) the man infront of him and had he fought some ATGs who's to say he wouldn't have beaten them - we just don't know.


    PS Putting "Fact" and then "IMO"


    It's true though. Kostya's best win is Judah. Yet he is always labeled as GREAT. It doesn't make sense.

    I think he's overrated because of his good to watch style and rattail. Fact.
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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.

    The facts are..

    Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.

    Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.

    Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.

    Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.
    Hatton got away with every foul cuz the ref was in his pocket. Fact

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    Default Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.

    The facts are..

    Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.

    Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.

    Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.

    Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.
    Hatton got away with every foul cuz the ref was in his pocket. Fact
    That's opinion not fact.

    "I have nothing to be ashamed of - I lost to the better fighter. I never felt that Ricky could beat me, but it happened. Everyone can be beaten. This is life." Kostya Tszyu

    That's from the horses mouth. Fact.
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