Is Hatton now a club fighter?

[Fenster]

Mid thirties Vince Phillips beat the shit out of a 28-year-old Kostya. Where's the old-age excuse there?

Hatton beat the shit out of Kostya forcing him to quit. The fact old Phillips beat the shit out of him too can only mean Tszyu is one of the most OVERRATED fighters of all time NOT the greatest. Fact.

[KostyaTszyuTeam]

NOPE..........he lost to Philips, period. It was a technical knockout. He looked OK up till midway v Phillips. He just lost that one, for whetever reason. In examining his career, it speaks for itself.

Losing to Hatton, he Quit, no protest o9n his behalf. If that called getting beat to death still on your feet, Hatton was dropped by a much lighter punching guy twice in r0ound 1, and was put out for munuted with the KO.

Same, Tszyu lost to Hatton on the night. Interms of beating the man making you the man, the resumes for both guys will be judged accordingly. Other guys will bring up clips for you. So far one guy will get into the hall of fame. Hatton, does he want to go to the hall of fame, I dont know. He may need to do more, but I am not the judge at Canastota.

[BIG H]

I'm finding hard to remember a single person who suggested Tszyu was old before the Hatton fight, it's great to wise after the even

What I remember is nearly everybody saying Tszyu would destroy Hatton and that Tszyu looked at his peak against Mitchell 7 months earlier. I always wonder what happend in those 7 months that suddenly made Tszyu old and shot

He spent his whole career at one weight, so there were not issues with weight draining etc, he was only 35, had only had 31 fights (7 less that Hatton) and he wasn't it wasn't like his fights were wars that would catch up on you. Hopkins hadn't even fought Trinidad buy the time he was 35.

And those names on Tszyu's resume could have exactly the same arguments applied to them as you have applied to Hatton's opposition. Seriously mate, Zab Judah and Sharmba Mitchell as his best career opponents

[CGM]

I'm finding hard to remember a single person who suggested Tszyu was old before the Hatton fight, it's great to wise after the even
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I like poking holes in this one. Fact is, we are in a lot better position to judge whether or not TSZYU is past it after seeing him fight, no?

[BIG H]

I'm finding hard to remember a single person who suggested Tszyu was old before the Hatton fight, it's great to wise after the even
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I like poking holes in this one. Fact is, we are in a lot better position to judge whether or not TSZYU is past it after seeing him fight, no?

It's just very convenient. Besides Tszyu never made any suggestions that it was a fight too many for him.

There is no evidence or circumstances that would make him past it

Only35 years old
31 fights
No wars
Just coming off arguably best career performances

[Fenster]

Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.

The facts are..

Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.

Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.

Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.

Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.

[BIG H]

Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.

The facts are..

Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.

Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.

Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.

Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.

I agree with that. Although I am basing that on a.) losing to Hatton, b.) losing to Philips and c.) far from great opposition.

I may be doing him an injustice, because he could only beat (sometimes ) the man infront of him and had he fought some ATGs who's to say he wouldn't have beaten them - we just don't know.


PS Putting "Fact" and then "IMO"

[Pugilistic]

Hatton has always been a B level fighter.

He was good but never great.

[BIG H]

Hatton has always been a B level fighter.

He was good but never great.

Agree his was "Good" not "Great" but he certainly wasn't "B Level" B Level fighters do not achieve what Hatton has

[jamiebhoy]

Is this a revision of your previous thread about Pac owning hatton as his bitch and hatton being a candidate as a gay icon........secretly i feel the love you have for Hatton oozing through.

[Fenster]

Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.

The facts are..

Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.

Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.

Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.

Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.

I agree with that. Although I am basing that on a.) losing to Hatton, b.) losing to Philips and c.) far from great opposition.

I may be doing him an injustice, because he could only beat (sometimes ) the man infront of him and had he fought some ATGs who's to say he wouldn't have beaten them - we just don't know.


PS Putting "Fact" and then "IMO"

It's true though. Kostya's best win is Judah. Yet he is always labeled as GREAT. It doesn't make sense.

I think he's overrated because of his good to watch style and rattail. Fact.

[Violent Demise]

Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.

The facts are..

Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.

Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.

Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.

Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.

Hatton got away with every foul cuz the ref was in his pocket. Fact

[Fenster]

Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.

The facts are..

Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.

Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.

Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.

Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.

Hatton got away with every foul cuz the ref was in his pocket. Fact

That's opinion not fact.

"I have nothing to be ashamed of - I lost to the better fighter. I never felt that Ricky could beat me, but it happened. Everyone can be beaten. This is life." Kostya Tszyu

That's from the horses mouth. Fact.