Can you be an all time great if your best win is against Zab Judah?

[killersheep]

Yes, the same Mitchell who was the no1 fighter in boxings then deepest division. Tszyu nailed Mitchell, but didnt have to fight many rounds, so dont know what he wouldve looked like deep into a fight. Hadnt fought in nealy 2 years.

As for Gonzalez, a prime De La Hoya decisioned him in a close fight, there wasnt anything dominate about it for Oscar. That is why, many thoughy Gonxalez would be too much for Tszyu. The draw with Cagvez wasnt also a draw, you know how the refs are. I suppose Chavez really drew with Whittaker too, but that was so far inaccurate, it was embarrassing.

Maybe both guys suck. Maybe they are about even Hatton and Tszyu interms of beig overrated. Kostya did reign for a very very long time which is undisputed. Hatton has done more interms of angling for the big fights in two weight classes, and has come up humbely short both times by a landslide. Kostya has never been dropped for a KO. He was still on his feet when Phillips TKO him, and QUIT on his stool.

They have had different careers. Neither Tszyu nor Hatton will be rated above Pacquiao and Mayweather. Kostya did his thing, Ricky his own too. Tszyu has a longer resume. I dont even know if Hatton cares to fight into his early 30s, let alone mid 30s.

Clearly this other thread has all the answers

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...b-fighter.html

[THE THIRD MAN]

It's interesting how many Tszyu threads have been posted recently since the Hatton demolition by Pacquiao. Should Tszyu's legacy be looked at because Hatton failed in a fight 4 years later? No is the appropriate answer, Hatton beat Tszyu in 2005, i won't say fair and square because it wasn't, but the result shows Hatton as the winner. Tszyu retires and why not, what else was there to prove? Undisputed 140lb Champion and a division champion for 10 years, FFS what do people want from this guy? He beats Juan La Porte in his 4th pro fight, then fights 16 world champions throughout his career. He missed the big ones through no fault of his own as DLH and Mosley chose to conveniently sidestep him to establish there own reputations and certainly didn't want Tszyu to throw a spanner in the works. Tszyu started late in the professional ring, i think he was 23 on debut in 1992 and i believe we never really saw the best of him, we saw moments of it, Gonzalez, Judah and Mitchell 2. Both Forrest and Millet got nowhere near him in the amateurs and all that really got the better of him was age and injury. Pushing 36, having just fought 3 rounds in 2 and half years, coming back from injury and fighting a young gun like Hatton on his own turf was in hindsight a mistake. It also didn't help wearing your balls as earrings throughout the fight either. Of course Tszyu is an all time great, tell me the last 10 year divsion champion and undisputed champion who isn't?? Judah himself is a former undisputed Welterweight champion of the world. A KO in 2 rounds over someone like that isn't bad on anyones resume.