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    Default Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!

    I think 2 things about Shane.

    1. He really wants to fight the best opposition possible.

    2. He wants to head off PBF who's going to go for a Pac fight and avoid him.

    If Shane beats Pac, he's in the drivers seat and no excuses for PBF. If he doesn't fight him, clearly it's ducking. So it's a tactical move and a fight that makes sense. Very dangerous fight for both men. I gotta go with Shane on points. I think he outboxes Pac with a great strategy devised by Bhop and Nazim Richardson.

    I don't think Pac can hurt Shane and Shane's handspeed is good enough to punch with Pac.
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    Default Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!

    Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame View Post
    I think 2 things about Shane.

    1. He really wants to fight the best opposition possible.

    2. He wants to head off PBF who's going to go for a Pac fight and avoid him.

    If Shane beats Pac, he's in the drivers seat and no excuses for PBF. If he doesn't fight him, clearly it's ducking. So it's a tactical move and a fight that makes sense. Very dangerous fight for both men. I gotta go with Shane on points. I think he outboxes Pac with a great strategy devised by Bhop and Nazim Richardson.

    I don't think Pac can hurt Shane and Shane's handspeed is good enough to punch with Pac.
    totally forgot about Nazim. maybe mosley is on to something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame View Post
    I think 2 things about Shane.

    1. He really wants to fight the best opposition possible.

    2. He wants to head off PBF who's going to go for a Pac fight and avoid him.

    If Shane beats Pac, he's in the drivers seat and no excuses for PBF. If he doesn't fight him, clearly it's ducking. So it's a tactical move and a fight that makes sense. Very dangerous fight for both men. I gotta go with Shane on points. I think he outboxes Pac with a great strategy devised by Bhop and Nazim Richardson.

    I don't think Pac can hurt Shane and Shane's handspeed is good enough to punch with Pac.
    I think Shane has the boxing skills and power to knock Manny out. Manny's chin still has yet to be tested in the upperweights because he hasn't been hit with anything meaningful between Diaz, De La Hoya, and Hatton. Which is also another reason I think people underestimate the fact that Manny's defense is well improved from what it once was. But that's another thread...

    I don't see Manny knocking out Shane. He would have to win on points. Shane's chin is too tested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame View Post
    I think 2 things about Shane.

    1. He really wants to fight the best opposition possible.

    2. He wants to head off PBF who's going to go for a Pac fight and avoid him.

    If Shane beats Pac, he's in the drivers seat and no excuses for PBF. If he doesn't fight him, clearly it's ducking. So it's a tactical move and a fight that makes sense. Very dangerous fight for both men. I gotta go with Shane on points. I think he outboxes Pac with a great strategy devised by Bhop and Nazim Richardson.

    I don't think Pac can hurt Shane and Shane's handspeed is good enough to punch with Pac.
    totally forgot about Nazim. maybe mosley is on to something...
    All Mosley has to do to beat Pacquiao is use a carbon copy of the Marquez fight and not get knocked down. Pacquiao hasn't changed, his opponents have. And Hopkins knows something about taking someones strategy and using it better against a knockout artist everyone is high on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kingfrnk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame View Post
    I think 2 things about Shane.

    1. He really wants to fight the best opposition possible.

    2. He wants to head off PBF who's going to go for a Pac fight and avoid him.

    If Shane beats Pac, he's in the drivers seat and no excuses for PBF. If he doesn't fight him, clearly it's ducking. So it's a tactical move and a fight that makes sense. Very dangerous fight for both men. I gotta go with Shane on points. I think he outboxes Pac with a great strategy devised by Bhop and Nazim Richardson.

    I don't think Pac can hurt Shane and Shane's handspeed is good enough to punch with Pac.
    totally forgot about Nazim. maybe mosley is on to something...
    All Mosley has to do to beat Pacquiao is use a carbon copy of the Marquez fight and not get knocked down. Pacquiao hasn't changed, his opponents have. And Hopkins knows something about taking someones strategy and using it better against a knockout artist everyone is high on.
    I don't know about Shane copying Marquez' game plan. Marquez is a different type of fighter and his own abilities were the reasons he made Pac look bad at times. I don't think Shane would be able to fight the same kind of fight. Shane would have to land the harder more significant shots because I think it would be Pacquiao landing in higher numbers. The punch that I think would give Pacquiao problems is that fake jab to a left hook that Mosely throws so well.

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    Default Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!

    Shane wont follow Marquez' gameplan. He is better than Marquez.
    Heres a guy who had a sucessful gameplan vs Pac

    Any man who knocks out Manny Pacquiao is guaranteed riches beyond their wildest dreams but the last man to do it is earning a living on Thailand's domestic circuit for around 20,000 baht a fight.

    MEMORY MAN: Medgoen racks up another win.

    Ten years ago, in the south of Thailand, Medgoen Singsurat (who is now fighting under the name Medgoen Kratingdaenggym) stopped Pacquiao with body shots to win the WBC flyweight title.

    It was the last time the Filipino - who lost his belt on the scales after failing to make weight - was beaten inside the distance and Medgoen said he even he had been surprised to overcome the red-hot rising star.

    "Before the fight I didn't think I was going to win," said Medgoen, who is also 30 like Manny.

    "He came to Thailand in 1998 and knocked out Chatchai Sasakul to win the belt and had looked impressive.

    "My promoter Virat Vachirarattanawong got me a shot because he still had an option on Pacquiao so that is how I got my chance."

    When the pair met, the Filipino was 26-1 while Medgoen was 18-0.

    Yet despite his impressive ledger, the honest Thai said he realised why he was a big underdog for the fight as soon as he got a close look at his rival.

    "He looked very big to me and I was worried about fighting him," said Medgoen.

    "While I was warming up on the pads before the fight my trainer was telling me that I could win by knockout but I didn't think that was true.

    "I knew he was tight at the weight and Virat said that I should be confident in myself and not to give Manny any room to set himself up for his left hand."

    Despite all the advice, Medgoen told how his plans came crashing back to reality in the first round.

    "I decided to be aggressive with him and started trading punches but he quickly caught me with a left hand to the head and it hurt me badly.

    "He hit me so hard I went dizzy and I was surprised that one punch had done that to me.

    "I just tried to cover up to make sure that he didn't do that to me again."

    After composing himself during the break, Medgoen targeted Manny's body in an effort to slow him down and said he felt that the champion was deliberately moving away to avoid the shots.

    "That gave me a lot of confidence because I knew the punches were hurting him," Medgoen explained.

    "I kept it up in the third round and in the middle of the session I caught up with him and fired a combination to the body and he went down heavily.

    "He appeared to be listening to the count but he was breathing deeply.

    "I stood in the neutral corner thinking "don't get up!"

    "He couldn't beat the count and the fight was over, I couldn't believe it and I was so happy. It was my dream come true."

    After the fight, Pacquiao immediately moved up to super-bantamweight. His only other defeat until now came against Erik Morales on points four years ago.

    Manny has gone on to superstardom while life has turned out very differently for the man who beat him that afternoon in provincial Thailand.

    Medgoen made a successful first defence against Masaki Kawabata but was then stopped by Malcolm Tunacao to lose the WBC flyweight title.

    Today he has an impressive-looking tally of 62-5 but has never managed to get back into the big time.

    He was blasted out by Jorge Arce inside a round in November 2007 but mainly fights just for a pay day.

    On Friday he outpointed novice Wanpadejseuk Sithsaithong on the undercard of Oledong Sithersamerchai's WBC strawweight title defence against Muhammad Rachman.

    The father of one daughter doesn't feel bitter about how things turned out and instead wishes Pacquiao all the best.

    "I watch his fights now and I want him to do well," said Medgoen.

    "It is good to see an Asian boxer make such a big impact on the world.

    "But whatever he does during his boxing career I know that he will always remember my name and what happened when we met 10 years ago."

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    Default Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!

    Mosley's desperate for one more legacy-defining, money-making fight before his career ends, and I don't blame him. I also think he honestly feels he's got the tools to beat Pac, and I can't blame him for that either. This would be a fight between two fighters I like and admire, although I must admit to wanting Cotto fight Pacquiao first.


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    Default Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!

    Anyone who brings up the two losses early in Pac's career in trying to figure out how to beat him today is just wishfully thinking.

    Pac is nowhere near the same fighter he was back then. Even the version of Pacquiao that Morales outboxed is completely different from what he is now.

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    Default Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!

    Folks,

    I don't think Shane Mosley is in the same boat as B-Hops.... I'm talking about hanging on a world class level until he's well into 40s...... In my book, Shane Mosley should retire right now, however, since he's going through a divorce, he'll probably stay active until he finds out how much his ex-wife will milk him for... But, he is connected to Golden Boy Prodictions, so money is still coming in.... Shane Mosley needs to look at his options, but I feel his fighting days are coming to an end soon....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRBILL View Post
    Folks,

    I don't think Shane Mosley is in the same boat as B-Hops.... I'm talking about hanging on a world class level until he's well into 40s...... In my book, Shane Mosley should retire right now, however, since he's going through a divorce, he'll probably stay active until he finds out how much his ex-wife will milk him for... But, he is connected to Golden Boy Prodictions, so money is still coming in.... Shane Mosley needs to look at his options, but I feel his fighting days are coming to an end soon....

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    Damn it!, maybe that's why Mosley beat the Sh*t out of Margarito!

    You think he'll still carry anger that if he fights Pacquiao? Oh Sh*t! since he's still going through the divorce will the ex have claim to his new money?

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