Catch Weight - Title fight?

[Violent Demise]

I think that shouldn't be the case, however, I am not sure if its not hte case. It doesn't make sense for Mosley to win the 140 pound belt because he couldn't defend it or make that weight, and if Pacquiao isn't fighting Mosley at the 147 pound limit, he shouldn't get the belt that says he did.

agreed, you want a welterweight strap, you do it at welterweight, people try to thrash Mayweather all the time but hey, he wanted the 5 titles in 5 weight classes thing, he went up to 154 to fight Oscar, IMO PAC's gonna have to do the same

Dude! Mayweather went up 1 weightclass after fighting 3 fights at welter for two and a half years. Do you realize Pac came up from 135 and was 130 one fight before that in less than 9 months to face De la Hoya? He met De La Hoya going down 1 weight class as Pacquiao's was going up 2 weight classes. Who does that?

Pac beat in Roach own words "a walking dead man". Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez would of done the same. It's not impressive once you look at the facts

[fan johnny]

agreed, you want a welterweight strap, you do it at welterweight, people try to thrash Mayweather all the time but hey, he wanted the 5 titles in 5 weight classes thing, he went up to 154 to fight Oscar, IMO PAC's gonna have to do the same

Dude! Mayweather went up 1 weightclass after fighting 3 fights at welter for two and a half years. Do you realize Pac came up from 135 and was 130 one fight before that in less than 9 months to face De la Hoya? He met De La Hoya going down 1 weight class as Pacquiao's was going up 2 weight classes. Who does that?

Pac beat in Roach own words "a walking dead man". Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez would of done the same. It's not impressive once you look at the facts

Your nuts!, but your absolutely right! It's more impressive to watch....

[Taeth]

agreed, you want a welterweight strap, you do it at welterweight, people try to thrash Mayweather all the time but hey, he wanted the 5 titles in 5 weight classes thing, he went up to 154 to fight Oscar, IMO PAC's gonna have to do the same

Dude! Mayweather went up 1 weightclass after fighting 3 fights at welter for two and a half years. Do you realize Pac came up from 135 and was 130 one fight before that in less than 9 months to face De la Hoya? He met De La Hoya going down 1 weight class as Pacquiao's was going up 2 weight classes. Who does that?

Pac beat in Roach own words "a walking dead man". Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez would of done the same. It's not impressive once you look at the facts

Give me a break, Oscar on that night would have killed Rafael or Israel or JMM, Manny was the one who could capatalize on Oscar because of his speed and in and out ability.

[KKisser]

Dude! Mayweather went up 1 weightclass after fighting 3 fights at welter for two and a half years. Do you realize Pac came up from 135 and was 130 one fight before that in less than 9 months to face De la Hoya? He met De La Hoya going down 1 weight class as Pacquiao's was going up 2 weight classes. Who does that?

Pac beat in Roach own words "a walking dead man". Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez would of done the same. It's not impressive once you look at the facts

Give me a break, Oscar on that night would have killed Rafael or Israel or JMM, Manny was the one who could capatalize on Oscar because of his speed and in and out ability.

ummm, so true.

[KKisser]

it's all about evening out the playing field as roach stated. what, you want pac to fight shane at the regular 147lb limit? so, i guess you think it's fair that come fight night mosley would be at 160lb fighting the somewhere between 147-149 pacquiao. a catchweight imo is fair if this fight is ever to happen. 144 or 145lbs is good.

[AdamGB]

You're right, it is all about evening the playing field... pac wants a welterweight title but Roach is worried that a fully grown welterweight will be too strong.

The whole point of competative sport is that one man is better than the other... if he wants the accelode of being a Welterweight champ he should fight and beat these guys at their best.

Should a football team use half of it's players to even things out because the other team aren't as strong as they are?... Maybe sprinters should have ankle weights on if they are faster than the competition... it would make things more even...

There's no such thing as 'fair' in the ring... you want to appear like you have big enough balls to challenge a welterweight for his belt? Do it properly or not at all.

[KKisser]

You're right, it is all about evening the playing field... pac wants a welterweight title but Roach is worried that a fully grown welterweight will be too strong.

The whole point of competative sport is that one man is better than the other... if he wants the accelode of being a Welterweight champ he should fight and beat these guys at their best.

Should a football team use half of it's players to even things out because the other team aren't as strong as they are?... Maybe sprinters should have ankle weights on if they are faster than the competition... it would make things more even...

There's no such thing as 'fair' in the ring... you want to appear like you have big enough balls to challenge a welterweight for his belt? Do it properly or not at all.

you're right! but the thing is it's mosley who wants the fight. so, it plays both ways. he wants a crack at a megafight against manny, he has to give some of his advantage to get it.

[AdamGB]

yes, the gold plated carrot that they are dangling in front of Mosely is bigger than pac's want for a 7th title.

Any other fighter moving up in weight to challenge the champ would just get laughed at for even asking.

Pac is worth a lot of money which is why these guys will do it, that's the way of the world but I just hope that Pac fan boys realise that he is using more than just his boxing abilities to make a victory happen here and if he does beat another weight drained fighter he's obviously not going to mention this.

It will be a legendary 7th title win but if he manages to weight drain Mosely like he is clearly trying to it should be a tainted one.

[KKisser]

it will be a little tainted i suppose if manny wins cos shane has to give up a couple of pounds. but manny would still be the smaller man giving shane an advantage in size having weighed in at 142 and 139lbs in his last 2 fights which are actually the heaviest he's been at. i think there would be some commendation in that.

[BIG H]

My very simple take on it (and I'm no physiologist ) is that if you don't have any body fat, then you can't drop any more weight (even 1 pound) without either losing muscle tissue or dehydrating - neither of which would be ideal preparation for a fight

I can lose 3 pounds going for a 'Doctor Who', but I'm a 220 pound lay about not a trained physical specimen

[fan johnny]

yes, the gold plated carrot that they are dangling in front of Mosely is bigger than pac's want for a 7th title.

Any other fighter moving up in weight to challenge the champ would just get laughed at for even asking.

Pac is worth a lot of money which is why these guys will do it, that's the way of the world but I just hope that Pac fan boys realise that he is using more than just his boxing abilities to make a victory happen here and if he does beat another weight drained fighter he's obviously not going to mention this.

It will be a legendary 7th title win but if he manages to weight drain Mosely like he is clearly trying to it should be a tainted one.

You forgot to mention that Mosley is very very very old!

[KKisser]

yes, the gold plated carrot that they are dangling in front of Mosely is bigger than pac's want for a 7th title.

Any other fighter moving up in weight to challenge the champ would just get laughed at for even asking.

Pac is worth a lot of money which is why these guys will do it, that's the way of the world but I just hope that Pac fan boys realise that he is using more than just his boxing abilities to make a victory happen here and if he does beat another weight drained fighter he's obviously not going to mention this.

It will be a legendary 7th title win but if he manages to weight drain Mosely like he is clearly trying to it should be a tainted one.

ok, how 'bout this? no catchweight, fight at 147lb limit BUT they do it on the condition of same day weigh-in. how well do you suppose that would fly?

[miron_lang]

NEWS FLASH :


Bernard Hopkins weighs 156lbs againts the 155lbs Oscar DelaHoya for Hopkins WORLD MIDDLEWEIGHT TITLE.

Its in the contract that Hopkins cant be heavier than 156


141 to 147 lbs is a WELTERWEIGHT FIGHT

IF PAC and MOSLEY gets it done between 141 and 147bls IT WILL BE for Mosley's Welterweight TITLE.


It happened before. believe it.

[AdamGB]

yes, the gold plated carrot that they are dangling in front of Mosely is bigger than pac's want for a 7th title.

Any other fighter moving up in weight to challenge the champ would just get laughed at for even asking.

Pac is worth a lot of money which is why these guys will do it, that's the way of the world but I just hope that Pac fan boys realise that he is using more than just his boxing abilities to make a victory happen here and if he does beat another weight drained fighter he's obviously not going to mention this.

It will be a legendary 7th title win but if he manages to weight drain Mosely like he is clearly trying to it should be a tainted one.

ok, how 'bout this? no catchweight, fight at 147lb limit BUT they do it on the condition of same day weigh-in. how well do you suppose that would fly?

Even worse. NO Welterweight save for Manny and maybe Floyd would be anywhere near 147 when they actually step into the ring.

They simply aren't naturally that weight, they can cope with dehydrating to stand on some scales for 5 minutes then rehydrating... they can't be in that state for hours and fight.

That's why they got rid of same day weigh ins... fighters were exhausting themselves doing it and getting rid of the fluid that protects the brain... Dehydration/Fatigue = Brain Damage.