Anyone else reckon the Haye fight is off 'cause Setanta aint paid him?

[Fenster]

Terry Norris-Paul Vaden. Fight was on Fox. Norris took less money than Vaden in this unification fight just for the oppertunity to fight his bitter rival. Both were from San Diego and they hated each other. From the beginning Norris said he no desire to knock Vaden out. What he wanted was to punish him for 12 rounds. And he did. Even after beating his ass Norris refused to shake hands with him

So they BOTH still got paid, right? That means the money WAS relevant.

You know any fighters that have fought for no pay?

The money is relevant when it becomes an issue. It was never an issue for Norris.

No fighter is allowed to fight for free. No matter what they say. You should know that

The money wasn't an issue but Norris still got paid, right? It must have been an issue. So what were their purses?

Why isn't a fighter allowed to fight for free?

[Violent Demise]

So they BOTH still got paid, right? That means the money WAS relevant.

You know any fighters that have fought for no pay?

The money is relevant when it becomes an issue. It was never an issue for Norris.

No fighter is allowed to fight for free. No matter what they say. You should know that

The money wasn't an issue but Norris still got paid, right? It must have been an issue. So what were their purses?

Why isn't a fighter allowed to fight for free?

You work for free at your job? Only an idiot would fight for free. But lets say there is a fighter who's stupid enough to fight for free. You really think his trainer, promoter and manager would do the same? No. Even if he didn't want it he would almost be forced to take it

[Fenster]

The money is relevant when it becomes an issue. It was never an issue for Norris.

No fighter is allowed to fight for free. No matter what they say. You should know that

The money wasn't an issue but Norris still got paid, right? It must have been an issue. So what were their purses?

Why isn't a fighter allowed to fight for free?

You work for free at your job? Only an idiot would fight for free. But lets say there is a fighter who's stupid enough to fight for free. You really think his trainer, promoter and manager would do the same? No. Even if he didn't want it he would almost be forced to take it

Right.. you said "No fighter is allowed to fight for free" - So it's not illegal, right? Just plain fucking stupid.

Just like it's plain fucking stupid to suggest money is irrelevant, right?

What were Norris and Vaden's purses?

[Violent Demise]

The money wasn't an issue but Norris still got paid, right? It must have been an issue. So what were their purses?

Why isn't a fighter allowed to fight for free?

You work for free at your job? Only an idiot would fight for free. But lets say there is a fighter who's stupid enough to fight for free. You really think his trainer, promoter and manager would do the same? No. Even if he didn't want it he would almost be forced to take it

Right.. you said "No fighter is allowed to fight for free" So it's not illegal, right? Just plain fucking stupid.

Just like it's plain fucking stupid to suggest money is irrelevant, right?

What were Norris and Vaden's purses?

I'm thinking your saying Haye shouldn't fight for free. I agree. What exactly is your point?

[Fenster]

You work for free at your job? Only an idiot would fight for free. But lets say there is a fighter who's stupid enough to fight for free. You really think his trainer, promoter and manager would do the same? No. Even if he didn't want it he would almost be forced to take it

Right.. you said "No fighter is allowed to fight for free" So it's not illegal, right? Just plain fucking stupid.

Just like it's plain fucking stupid to suggest money is irrelevant, right?

What were Norris and Vaden's purses?

I'm thinking your saying Haye shouldn't fight for free. I agree. What exactly is your point?

I know you agree. Only a complete IDIOT would suggest a pro boxer would fight for free. Money dictates the game. Boxing is all about the money. If you ain't getting paid you aint fighting. Fact.

What were Norris and Vaden's purses?

[Violent Demise]

Right.. you said "No fighter is allowed to fight for free" So it's not illegal, right? Just plain fucking stupid.

Just like it's plain fucking stupid to suggest money is irrelevant, right?

What were Norris and Vaden's purses?

I'm thinking your saying Haye shouldn't fight for free. I agree. What exactly is your point?

I know you agree. Only a complete IDIOT would suggest a pro boxer would fight for free. Money dictates the game. Boxing is all about the money. If you ain't getting paid you aint fighting. Fact.

What were Norris and Vaden's purses?

If memory serves me right it was 1.5 mill for Vaden. 1.3 for Norris. Which is a joke of a purse for Norris

[Fenster]

I'm thinking your saying Haye shouldn't fight for free. I agree. What exactly is your point?

I know you agree. Only a complete IDIOT would suggest a pro boxer would fight for free. Money dictates the game. Boxing is all about the money. If you ain't getting paid you aint fighting. Fact.

What were Norris and Vaden's purses?

If memory serves me right it was 1.5 mill for Vaden. 1.3 for Norris. Which is a joke of a purse for Norris

Not quite, VD.

Vaden's $250,000 purse was withheld for "conduct unbecoming a champion,"

BOXING;Once Tyson Manages to Land, So Does Mathis - The New York Times

[AdamGB]

if the Setanta network is going bust then how are they supposed to pay him anything?

[Violent Demise]

if the Setanta network is going bust then how are they supposed to pay him anything?

Simple. They don't

[AdamGB]

if the Setanta network is going bust then how are they supposed to pay him anything?

Simple. They don't

Only an idiot would fight for free.

[Violent Demise]

if the Setanta network is going bust then how are they supposed to pay him anything?

Simple. They don't

Only an idiot would fight for free.

We covered that already. Try and keep up

[AdamGB]

Simple. They don't

Only an idiot would fight for free.

We covered that already. Try and keep up

So haye is all about the money and always has been and that's the only reason he wants the fight... but you don't think he should fight for free?

Seems like you're either making an irrelevant, moot point if all you're doing is pointing out that nobody fights for free or you're criticising Haye for being all about money and then contradicting yourself.

[bradlee180]

Tommy Gibbons fought for free when he challenged for Jack Dempsey's Heavyweight crown.

Dempsey was one of the greatest draws in boxing history, but the Gibbons fight was a financial disaster with barely anybody showing up to see it.

Dempsey and his manager Kearns had worked out a guaranteed purse of $300 thousand, and the town of Shelby, Montana went bankrupt paying it.

There was nothing left for Gibbons.

Shortly after, Gibbons went on tour and made some money by retelling the tale of his battle with Dempsey.

A few months later, Dempsey drew over 80 thousand people in attendance for the Firpo fight with an estimated 20 thousand more left out on the street as the venue was jam-packed to the rafters.

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[Violent Demise]

Tommy Gibbons fought for free when he challenged for Jack Dempsey's Heavyweight crown.

Dempsey was one of the greatest draws in boxing history, but the Gibbons fight was a financial disaster with barely anybody showing up to see it.

Dempsey and his manager Kearns had worked out a guaranteed purse of $300 thousand, and the town of Shelby, Montana went bankrupt paying it.

There was nothing left for Gibbons.

Shortly after, Gibbons went on tour and made some money by retelling the tale of his battle with Dempsey.

A few months later, Dempsey drew over 80 thousand people in attendance for the Firpo fight with an estimated 20 thousand more left out on the street as the venue was jam-packed to the rafters.

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That ain't fighting for free. That's being robbed