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All those guys are surely boring as you like, Haye gets a title shot because he cam make money and he's exciting for the publicity aswell as the fight. Nothing different happening here than what is happening with Marquez getting a shot at Mayweather or hatton getting a shot at Mayweather rather than someone like mosely or clottey or williams getting a much more deserved shot. Too much double standard going on these days i'm sorry.

What ever makes money, flies....... Theres a lot of talk about Haye in this forum lately, has anyone really debated that much about Mr Alexander Povetkin or Mr Ruslan Chagaev. No. I think what Haye is doing is good stuff man. Creates interest and excitement where there wasn't any and generates debate where things were flat. Can't knock the guy really.
Being exciting doesn't mean you deserve a title shot against Vlad. And Haye isn't even the most exciting heavyweight out there. That belongs to Cris Arreola. The most exciting and controversial heavyweight out there.

There has been more talk and criticism about him than David Haye (see - how can a man with big breasts continue to win big heavyweight fights?). He also has fought three or four legit heavyweights.

Cris Arreola v. David Haye at the Staples Center. That's a heayvweight scrap that won't go the distance. Then, if David Haye passes the test, he has more of a claim for a fight with Vlad. Here's saying he won't .
Yet this Great Arreola that you speak of isn't ready for a shot at Wlad. Sounds more cautious than exciting.

Arreola is overweight, slow and easy to hit. His opposition hasn't been fantastic but he is a good prospect.

I fail to see how Brian Minto, Holyfield etc are prepared to take the risk and fight Wlad but Chris isn't ready. It can't be because he needs to get inshape because he hasn't been inshape for over a year. The guy probably couldn't beat Oliver McCall let alone win a World title.
Don't equate an intelligent thought-out decision, if cautious, with not being exciting. Have you seen him fight? He is a lot more exciting than almost every single heavyweight out there. Watch the Chazz Witherspoon fight and the Travis Walker fight and then tell me if he isn't exciting. Can you name one other heavyweight as exciting as Cris?

When you say slow, do you mean hand speed? Because that definitely isn't true. He may not have the fastest hands on the planet, but for a heavyweight he is relatively quick. He also throws legit combinations.

The reason Cris hasn't taken the fight with Vlad on short notice when other boxers are willing is because Cris actually has the potential to have a legitimate career at heavyweight. Minto knows this may be his only shot. Cris will have a few.

Why does David Haye deserve a title shot? Especially after incessantly beating the hype drum and then pulling out of the fight at the last minute? Now he can get to the back of the line where he belongs. How about fighting a few heavyweights first? The problem for him is he will be beat before he has another chance.