Haye V Klitschko OFF

[Mar]

This thread alone show why is sucks ass all this is happening, it does kinda suck that haye cried his way to this point while others are fighting but now since what's done is done i really wanted to see it. I'm not sure which one of you guys are right or wrong and who cares but one HW fight i actually wanted to see being in limbo just sucks ass.

[El Kabong]

I think it's better off that Wlad fights Chagaev (who is unbeaten and WBA Champ in recess whatever the fuck that means)....anyway Chagaev is a SOMEBODY in the division David Haye is a nobody!!!

Sure people say he should be able to jump up to heavyweight and fit right in but we don't know that for sure do we? Ricky Hatton had trouble fighting 7 pounds over his normal fighting weight....7 pounds!!!! And Haye's opponents Outside of Mormeck I really don't see anyone that really catches my eye, I know it's the normal thing to say when talking down a fighter "Look at his record who has he fought?" but honestly let's disect Haye's record, his "biggest wins" are vs Mormeck, Maccarinelli, and Monte Barrett that's a very poor list, even for a guy with just 23 fights under his belt. I've heard interviews with Haye comparing Wladimir to Alexander Gurov...WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!!!! It is amazing Haye even got the shot, if not for his big mouth and wins in a PISS POOR division along with the support of Setnanta and Steve Bunce he would be another nobody!!!

Now I WANT David Haye to be someone in the division, I want him to win big fights and have his success but he's never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to beat Wladimir. When Wladimir was set to fight Lennox Lewis and he kept hounding Lennox everyone said "He's not ready" and that was when Wlad had 40 some fights!....well the tables have turned and David Haye is not ready!!!

[WelshDevilRob]

I think it's better off that Wlad fights Chagaev (who is unbeaten and WBA Champ in recess whatever the fuck that means)....anyway Chagaev is a SOMEBODY in the division David Haye is a nobody!!!

Sure people say he should be able to jump up to heavyweight and fit right in but we don't know that for sure do we? Ricky Hatton had trouble fighting 7 pounds over his normal fighting weight....7 pounds!!!! And Haye's opponents Outside of Mormeck I really don't see anyone that really catches my eye, I know it's the normal thing to say when talking down a fighter "Look at his record who has he fought?" but honestly let's disect Haye's record, his "biggest wins" are vs Mormeck, Maccarinelli, and Monte Barrett that's a very poor list, even for a guy with just 23 fights under his belt. I've heard interviews with Haye comparing Wladimir to Alexander Gurov...WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!!!! It is amazing Haye even got the shot, if not for his big mouth and wins in a PISS POOR division along with the support of Setnanta and Steve Bunce he would be another nobody!!!

Now I WANT David Haye to be someone in the division, I want him to win big fights and have his success but he's never, ever, ever, ever, ever going to beat Wladimir. When Wladimir was set to fight Lennox Lewis and he kept hounding Lennox everyone said "He's not ready" and that was when Wlad had 40 some fights!....well the tables have turned and David Haye is not ready!!!

On Chagaev: I read his Hepatitis B gets worse when he trains and is more contagious. The Finish authorities showed there integrity in not allowing him to fight. I used to like Chagaev but this illness/ disease has weakened him and he is not the force he once was. He struggled badly with the unknown Drummond.

Wlad wasn't ready for Lennox back in the day and never would have been - he would have got sparked by Lennox.

HBO don't want the Chagaev fight they want Haye. Haye is the draw in the US not Wlad.

[El Kabong]

Rob, inspite of what Steve Bunce may say, David Haye doesn't carry weight here in the US people don't know who he is, or they don't care, and the ones that do know who Haye is want to see him get massacred in the ring.

David Haye isn't ready for Wladimir, he has no experience vs anyone with Wladimir's skill. Steve Bunce can talk shit all he wants to about how bad Wladimir is and how great David Haye is but it's going to be one rude damn awakening when the hammer comes down on that chin of Haye's

[WelshDevilRob]

Rob, inspite of what Steve Bunce may say, David Haye doesn't carry weight here in the US people don't know who he is, or they don't care, and the ones that do know who Haye is want to see him get massacred in the ring.

David Haye isn't ready for Wladimir, he has no experience vs anyone with Wladimir's skill. Steve Bunce can talk shit all he wants to about how bad Wladimir is and how great David Haye is but it's going to be one rude damn awakening when the hammer comes down on that chin of Haye's

Lyle,

I enjoy Bunce's rants they are entertaining if uninformed. HBO have turned down Wlad vs Chagaev? They were going to air the Haye fight. Haye is a draw to HBO someone they can sell.

The only good thing to come-out of all this is the possibility that Vitali will now fight Haye. Vitali is the main man not his brother and he don't want to fight Maskaev. (Old and shot)

I respectfully disagree with you on Haye's readiness but conceed I'd have liked him to have had 2 more fights to get used to carrying the extra weight. I do see the Klitschkos as beatable.

I am gutted this fight seems to have fallen through. Klitschko vs Chagaev is going ahead just seems to need a US channel. There may be a silver lining and we get Vitali vs Haye. Vitali is definately up for that.

[Violent Demise]

And there goes Haye's chance

Klitschko, Chagaev reach agreement

[El Kabong]

Apparently everyone in England is dying to see David Haye killed in the ring ...what gives? Last time one of YOUR BOYS got KO'd all you Brits were on here moaning about how you "cried all night" and "How dare HBO show Ricky's family as he's lying there motionless on the canvas!"......will you cry when David Haye finally gets his shot (stays healthy) and get's battered from pillar to post

[WelshDevilRob]

Apparently everyone in England is dying to see David Haye killed in the ring ...what gives?

Not sure about the good folk in England. But you Klitschko fans in Mexico seem to be very happy that the Haye fight is off.

[benevolent anarchist]

Klitschko and his team had been considering the postponement, but when it still hadn't received a medical report on Haye's injury by Friday afternoon, they opted for Chagaev.
"We have only heard from them about this injury but not received the medical report," Boente said. "The main obstacle in Wladimir's mind was that we can never count 100 percent on Haye. The options were Chagaev on June 20 or delay the Haye fight to July 11. But the big obstacle was that we don't know that suddenly Haye doesn't cancel again because his back is still not 100 percent. Then with the summer vacations in Europe, we can't do a fight until the fall. We couldn't take that risk."
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This is why I refuse to give Haye the benefit of the doubt. Today's MRI equipment can detect even slight micro muscle tears. This sort of thing happens in the NFL often because with the amount of money that NFL players are paid, you need a proper "doctors note", LOL.

[Kirkland Laing]

Rob, inspite of what Steve Bunce may say, David Haye doesn't carry weight here in the US people don't know who he is, or they don't care, and the ones that do know who Haye is want to see him get massacred in the ring.

David Haye isn't ready for Wladimir, he has no experience vs anyone with Wladimir's skill. Steve Bunce can talk shit all he wants to about how bad Wladimir is and how great David Haye is but it's going to be one rude damn awakening when the hammer comes down on that chin of Haye's

HBO aren't interested in junior's fight with Chagaev. They're not going to show it. Why is that?

[XaduBoxer]

Rob, inspite of what Steve Bunce may say, David Haye doesn't carry weight here in the US people don't know who he is, or they don't care, and the ones that do know who Haye is want to see him get massacred in the ring.

David Haye isn't ready for Wladimir, he has no experience vs anyone with Wladimir's skill. Steve Bunce can talk shit all he wants to about how bad Wladimir is and how great David Haye is but it's going to be one rude damn awakening when the hammer comes down on that chin of Haye's

HBO aren't interested in junior's fight with Chagaev. They're not going to show it. Why is that?

Isn't it Haye a Golden Boy Promotions boxer?? This is the only reason I can think of since Chagaev is a much better HW boxer compared to Haye... Sometimes HBO and GBP aren't really helping boxing...
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