Haye V Klitschko OFF

[El Kabong]

Rob, inspite of what Steve Bunce may say, David Haye doesn't carry weight here in the US people don't know who he is, or they don't care, and the ones that do know who Haye is want to see him get massacred in the ring.

David Haye isn't ready for Wladimir, he has no experience vs anyone with Wladimir's skill. Steve Bunce can talk shit all he wants to about how bad Wladimir is and how great David Haye is but it's going to be one rude damn awakening when the hammer comes down on that chin of Haye's

[WelshDevilRob]

Rob, inspite of what Steve Bunce may say, David Haye doesn't carry weight here in the US people don't know who he is, or they don't care, and the ones that do know who Haye is want to see him get massacred in the ring.

David Haye isn't ready for Wladimir, he has no experience vs anyone with Wladimir's skill. Steve Bunce can talk shit all he wants to about how bad Wladimir is and how great David Haye is but it's going to be one rude damn awakening when the hammer comes down on that chin of Haye's

Lyle,

I enjoy Bunce's rants they are entertaining if uninformed. HBO have turned down Wlad vs Chagaev? They were going to air the Haye fight. Haye is a draw to HBO someone they can sell.

The only good thing to come-out of all this is the possibility that Vitali will now fight Haye. Vitali is the main man not his brother and he don't want to fight Maskaev. (Old and shot)

I respectfully disagree with you on Haye's readiness but conceed I'd have liked him to have had 2 more fights to get used to carrying the extra weight. I do see the Klitschkos as beatable.

I am gutted this fight seems to have fallen through. Klitschko vs Chagaev is going ahead just seems to need a US channel. There may be a silver lining and we get Vitali vs Haye. Vitali is definately up for that.

[Violent Demise]

And there goes Haye's chance

Klitschko, Chagaev reach agreement

[El Kabong]

Apparently everyone in England is dying to see David Haye killed in the ring ...what gives? Last time one of YOUR BOYS got KO'd all you Brits were on here moaning about how you "cried all night" and "How dare HBO show Ricky's family as he's lying there motionless on the canvas!"......will you cry when David Haye finally gets his shot (stays healthy) and get's battered from pillar to post

[WelshDevilRob]

Apparently everyone in England is dying to see David Haye killed in the ring ...what gives?

Not sure about the good folk in England. But you Klitschko fans in Mexico seem to be very happy that the Haye fight is off.

[El Kabong]

I've given examples of why the Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye fight was not great at the moment...I never said that I didn't want the fight to happen, I'm happy any time Wlad fights as I am sure the Pacquiao fans are happy when Manny fights, and the Pavlik fans and Cotto fans are happy when those guys fight.....but for the division as a whole this fight and this point in time was not going to heal the heavyweight division the way all you Haye fans think it would...even if the stars lined up right and Haye won the division would still be fucked on account of Don King and the WBA.

Ruslan Chagaev is WBA Champion (in recess), Wladimir Klitschko holds the IBF and WBO titles (and the lesser IBO title as well)...if Wladimir was to win then he would have a clear shot at Nicolay Valuev who tucked dick and ran screaming like a little girl when Wladimir's people offered him the fight. And not only would he have a shot at him, he would have a LEGITIMATE claim to the WBA belt ergo making him the holder of 3 belts and making the heavyweight division whole again (whole in that the people who wanted the WBA belt would have to actually fight someone good for a change, not in that Wlad would be the unified Champion or anything).

Had David Haye gone after the WBA belt and won it then SHIT YEAH this fight would be worth waiting for but right now Haye needs to get healthy, fight a top contender, and earn his shot.

[leftylee]

Lyle do you realistically feel Haye causes no threat whatsoever to Bitchsko ?

When was the last time Wlad faced anybody as fast, powerful and determined as Haye ?

[El Kabong]

leftylee when has David Haye shown that he can compete on Wladimir's level


SUUUURRRRRVEY SAYS

NEVER!!!!!!

[Nameless]

Lyle do you realistically feel Haye causes no threat whatsoever to Bitchsko ?

When was the last time Wlad faced anybody as fast, powerful and determined as Haye ?

I go with LEftylee there, Haye hasn't proved nothing and got shaken up by a far lesser opponent than Wlad. Haye has a decent speed but he's sure not a speedracer for the HW division. As for his power, he has proven great things at cruiserweights but nothing so far in the HW division, beside, Wlad is more powerful than him, sharper, bigger with a much similar speed (at least, in his range). Haye brings excitement because of his brash out mouth and super aptitude to self promote and to raise up passions but in all honesty, his chances to win are from slim to very slim.

[benevolent anarchist]

Klitschko and his team had been considering the postponement, but when it still hadn't received a medical report on Haye's injury by Friday afternoon, they opted for Chagaev.
"We have only heard from them about this injury but not received the medical report," Boente said. "The main obstacle in Wladimir's mind was that we can never count 100 percent on Haye. The options were Chagaev on June 20 or delay the Haye fight to July 11. But the big obstacle was that we don't know that suddenly Haye doesn't cancel again because his back is still not 100 percent. Then with the summer vacations in Europe, we can't do a fight until the fall. We couldn't take that risk."
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This is why I refuse to give Haye the benefit of the doubt. Today's MRI equipment can detect even slight micro muscle tears. This sort of thing happens in the NFL often because with the amount of money that NFL players are paid, you need a proper "doctors note", LOL.

[ono]

Klitschko and his team had been considering the postponement, but when it still hadn't received a medical report on Haye's injury by Friday afternoon, they opted for Chagaev.
"We have only heard from them about this injury but not received the medical report," Boente said. "The main obstacle in Wladimir's mind was that we can never count 100 percent on Haye. The options were Chagaev on June 20 or delay the Haye fight to July 11. But the big obstacle was that we don't know that suddenly Haye doesn't cancel again because his back is still not 100 percent. Then with the summer vacations in Europe, we can't do a fight until the fall. We couldn't take that risk."
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This is why I refuse to give Haye the benefit of the doubt. Today's MRI equipment can detect even slight micro muscle tears. This sort of thing happens in the NFL often because with the amount of money that NFL players are paid, you need a proper "doctors note", LOL.

So he elects to fight a guy who has just pulled out of another fight with hepatitus? Rather than wait 3 weeks to fight Haye. I'm thinking B.I.T.C.H.

Sorry Lyle and other Clit fans but to call it off and fight somebody who is just as likely...if not more likely to pull out is ridiculous

[XaduBoxer]

Klitschko and his team had been considering the postponement, but when it still hadn't received a medical report on Haye's injury by Friday afternoon, they opted for Chagaev.
"We have only heard from them about this injury but not received the medical report," Boente said. "The main obstacle in Wladimir's mind was that we can never count 100 percent on Haye. The options were Chagaev on June 20 or delay the Haye fight to July 11. But the big obstacle was that we don't know that suddenly Haye doesn't cancel again because his back is still not 100 percent. Then with the summer vacations in Europe, we can't do a fight until the fall. We couldn't take that risk."
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This is why I refuse to give Haye the benefit of the doubt. Today's MRI equipment can detect even slight micro muscle tears. This sort of thing happens in the NFL often because with the amount of money that NFL players are paid, you need a proper "doctors note", LOL.

So he elects to fight a guy who has just pulled out of another fight with hepatitus? Rather than wait 3 weeks to fight Haye. I'm thinking B.I.T.C.H.

Sorry Lyle and other Clit fans but to call it off and fight somebody who is just as likely...if not more likely to pull out is ridiculous

I've read Vlad been immunized against hepatitis (wonder if Valuev was immunized too?) and Chagaev hepatitis is a very minor one where you got more chance struck by lightning than being infected by Chagaev hepatitis...

[ono]

This is why I refuse to give Haye the benefit of the doubt. Today's MRI equipment can detect even slight micro muscle tears. This sort of thing happens in the NFL often because with the amount of money that NFL players are paid, you need a proper "doctors note", LOL.

So he elects to fight a guy who has just pulled out of another fight with hepatitus? Rather than wait 3 weeks to fight Haye. I'm thinking B.I.T.C.H.

Sorry Lyle and other Clit fans but to call it off and fight somebody who is just as likely...if not more likely to pull out is ridiculous

I've read Vlad been immunized against hepatitis (wonder if Valuev was immunized too?) and Chagaev hepatitis is a very minor one where you got more chance struck by lightning than being infected by Chagaev hepatitis...

Hepatitus B is 10 times more infectous than HIV. My point wasn't that anyway.

Point was Chagaev is surely just as likely to pull out due to the symptoms of Hepatitus B - The nausea, vomiting, fatigue etc...

[Kirkland Laing]

Rob, inspite of what Steve Bunce may say, David Haye doesn't carry weight here in the US people don't know who he is, or they don't care, and the ones that do know who Haye is want to see him get massacred in the ring.

David Haye isn't ready for Wladimir, he has no experience vs anyone with Wladimir's skill. Steve Bunce can talk shit all he wants to about how bad Wladimir is and how great David Haye is but it's going to be one rude damn awakening when the hammer comes down on that chin of Haye's

HBO aren't interested in junior's fight with Chagaev. They're not going to show it. Why is that?

[XaduBoxer]

Rob, inspite of what Steve Bunce may say, David Haye doesn't carry weight here in the US people don't know who he is, or they don't care, and the ones that do know who Haye is want to see him get massacred in the ring.

David Haye isn't ready for Wladimir, he has no experience vs anyone with Wladimir's skill. Steve Bunce can talk shit all he wants to about how bad Wladimir is and how great David Haye is but it's going to be one rude damn awakening when the hammer comes down on that chin of Haye's

HBO aren't interested in junior's fight with Chagaev. They're not going to show it. Why is that?

Isn't it Haye a Golden Boy Promotions boxer?? This is the only reason I can think of since Chagaev is a much better HW boxer compared to Haye... Sometimes HBO and GBP aren't really helping boxing...
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