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OK, so David Haye isn't a 100% fraud.....is he a legit heavyweight?? We can't really say for certain can we? I know he beat Bonnin and Barrett, but Audley had already KO'd Bonnin so that's not really spectacular and Monte Barrett was enjoying a resurgence in his career because he KO'd Tye Fields who is more of a basketball player than a boxer. Monte had lost to Wladimir 9 years ago but more recently he got KO'd by Cliff Couser in 2! Nothing Haye did at cruiserweight really wowed me either...Enzo Maccarinelli isn't all that great and therefore a win over him doesn't mean much in my book.

Haye has many questions to answer at heavyweight AND if he is the REAL DEAL then this fight deserves to be pumped up with FACTS and not just feelings about fighters or pride in where they are from.

I don't call for Wladimir to fight young American heavyweights (and we do have them, I guess) for the same reasons I didn't call for this fight #1 They aren't ready #2 They haven't earned it #3 If they are the truth then they will earn it in the future.
What I be saying. Haye has gone through a lot of trouble to avoid having to earn his shot. Why is that? Why can't they see that? I'll tell you why. Cuz he's from the UK. If Haye were Puerto Rican or from Japan Haye would be getting crucified in this forum. As an overrated loud mouth who talked his way into a title shot. The same "unbias" posters who defend him now would be the first ones chopping him down. Fact!
What would you 'be saying' if Wlad had became injured and wanted to postpone the fight?

Fuck all... why? Because Wlad isn't British.

Nobody is going to deny that haye got his shot by insulting Wlad, that's news to nobody... don't make out like he put an epic ammount of effort into it though... it didn't exactly take him a marathon of trouble to get there did it?

Being undisputed Cruiserweight Champ put him in a position where he felt he could get a fight if he asked loudly enough... he did and WLAD accepted.

I'm sure if Wlad still hadn't taken the fight Haye would now be campaigning at heavyweight to earn more credibility but the fact of the matter is that after a very small ammount of trash talking WLAD TOOK THE FIGHT. Again you're jumping to conclusions... who knows what Haye would have done if Wlad didn't take the fight?... but guess what... he DID.