Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

[smashup]

Probably a fair amount of truth in that.

Ricks biggest mistake was taking him on imo. He was mugged off. The guy was simply unprofessional, anybody that saw 24/7 would have seen it for themselves.

100% TRUE

Only ever in it for the money

[Fenster]

Well that's what you get for hiring a trainer that said you're "worse than Gatti"

[Majesty]

Yeah but in the end it wasn't Floyd fault Hatton lost the fight. Floyd Sr said it best, Ricky had the knowledge. But he pissed it away by slugging with Pacquiao. Ricky has no one to blame but himself for that.

[Steelie]

I accept that. But for me, Ricky reverted to type much earlier than in previous fights (it always happens, lets face it)...and that was as a result of the fact he went into the ring feeling under prepared due to the poor camp.

......annnnnd I'm not saying Ricky would of won the fight if the prep was different, before anyone jumps on it, simply that Floyd has to accept he was complicit in the manner of the loss. Which he won't

[JazMerkin]

For me, the blame is squarely at Hatton's feet, no one else's. Not Floyd Sr, not Lee Beard, not Billy Graham. Hatton showed no respect to Pacquaio's punching power & thought he could walk through it. He didn't listen to what he was told post-fight & in the corner after the 1st round, and the brand new Ricky we'd been promised & seen a bit of against Malignaggi was obviously still in the dressing room. The attempt to blame Floyd Sr is typical of both the Hatton Camp & those at SkySports who like nothing better than acting as a loudspeaker for Team Hatton to go on about how 'it wasn't Ricky's fault, it was illness/Joe Cortez/Billy Graham/Floyd Mayweather Sr'

[Steelie]

Let me put it this way - if Ricky had of caught Manny cold and won...would Snr have taken any credit?

[JazMerkin]

Let me put it this way - if Ricky had of caught Manny cold and won...would Snr have taken any credit?

Not really the issue. If Ricky had respected Manny a bit more & fought sensibly how Floyd Sr had told him to & THEN got KO'd, then it would be easy to put the blame on him. However, he fought like a pub drunk & got beaten down like one, so the blame is all on Ricky

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Let me put it this way - if Ricky had of caught Manny cold and won...would Snr have taken any credit?

Yes he would - for laying out the plan to beat him but he isn't in the ring with Hatton, it's up to Hatton to do as he's been told/trained to do.

If Hatton wasn't happy with him in camp or as head trainer then he should have sacked him. He wouldn't be the first or the last trainer to be ditched.

As for the Gatti comment.....I think Gatti has/had a better chin than Hatton

[HattonTheHammer]

For me, the blame is squarely at Hatton's feet, no one else's. Not Floyd Sr, not Lee Beard, not Billy Graham. Hatton showed no respect to Pacquaio's punching power & thought he could walk through it. He didn't listen to what he was told post-fight & in the corner after the 1st round, and the brand new Ricky we'd been promised & seen a bit of against Malignaggi was obviously still in the dressing room. The attempt to blame Floyd Sr is typical of both the Hatton Camp & those at SkySports who like nothing better than acting as a loudspeaker for Team Hatton to go on about how 'it wasn't Ricky's fault, it was illness/Joe Cortez/Billy Graham/Floyd Mayweather Sr'

elements of that are spot on and hattons naivety that night was there for all to see.

It wasnt a good match and was destined to fail right from the start. You cant teach an old dog new tricks and hatton is never going to be the kind of slick mover someone like floyd snr is used to training.

Biggest hatton mistake was not keeping graham on under some sort of capacity

[JT Rock]

I accept that. But for me, Ricky reverted to type much earlier than in previous fights (it always happens, lets face it)...and that was as a result of the fact he went into the ring feeling under prepared due to the poor camp.

......annnnnd I'm not saying Ricky would of won the fight if the prep was different, before anyone jumps on it, simply that Floyd has to accept he was complicit in the manner of the loss. Which he won't

Thats ridiculous and preposterous Steelie!!!! How was Ricky undertrained and not prepared? I know you guys get the inside track on Hattons official forum but Ricky is full of excuses in both losses or should I say 3 with Colazzo.

You mean to tell me that on the biggest fight of Ricky's career, the redemption after the floyd KO, he wasnt prepared? Seriously??

So Graham is a chump because Floyd Ko'd him

Mayweather sr is a chump because Pac knocked him 10 shades of out.

1) Did Ricky move his head.... NO

2) Did Ricky Jab his way in...... NO

3) Did Ricky look scared after the 1st Pac right hook... Yes

4) Did Ricky become unraveled and bottled it hoping to walk into a KO punch because he wasnt willing to go to war with Pac.... Yes

Ricky and his family need to suck it up and take accountability for his losses and stop blaming people.

Mayweather Sr is an easy target do to his ebonics, slurring and flamboyancy but the man knows the sport well, and even if he was 5 min late here and there, Iam sure Ricky could have jumped rope or hit the heavy bag while he was waiting

[El Kabong]

Jesus could have trained Ricky Hatton and it wouldn't have helped....Manny just owned him that's all there is to it.

[Quinito]

It was the ground beef taco's fault why Ricky got ktfo. Floyd Sr is clean. Hatton obuiously completely underestimated Pac's power. He had no respect at all.

[El Kabong]

...and really who thought Ricky could be changed so dramatically after 1 damn fight?!?!?! Let's be honest, it took Oscar De la Hoya a LOOONG time to get used to fighting the way Floyd Sr. trained and before he got used to it he just got by on his own skill....look at the Vargas fight, Oscar damn near lost trying to use Floyd's techniques which Oscar hadn't perfected yet and if Oscar didn't revert back into the old warrior De la Hoya he would have lost. And De la Hoya comes from a much higher boxing pedigree than Ricky Hatton, I'm not hating on Ricky, I'm just saying it even took Oscar a long time to pick up that system.

I thought Ricky might be taught to BOX a bit more but that just ain't his style, he's a pressure fighter and he's at home when he can attack at will and guys who can fire back faster, stronger, and straighter are not his friends.

[Steelie]

I accept that. But for me, Ricky reverted to type much earlier than in previous fights (it always happens, lets face it)...and that was as a result of the fact he went into the ring feeling under prepared due to the poor camp.

......annnnnd I'm not saying Ricky would of won the fight if the prep was different, before anyone jumps on it, simply that Floyd has to accept he was complicit in the manner of the loss. Which he won't

Thats ridiculous and preposterous Steelie!!!! How was Ricky undertrained and not prepared? I know you guys get the inside track on Hattons official forum but Ricky is full of excuses in both losses or should I say 3 with Colazzo.

You mean to tell me that on the biggest fight of Ricky's career, the redemption after the floyd KO, he wasnt prepared? Seriously??

So Graham is a chump because Floyd Ko'd him

Mayweather sr is a chump because Pac knocked him 10 shades of out.

1) Did Ricky move his head.... NO

2) Did Ricky Jab his way in...... NO

3) Did Ricky look scared after the 1st Pac right hook... Yes

4) Did Ricky become unraveled and bottled it hoping to walk into a KO punch because he wasnt willing to go to war with Pac.... Yes

Ricky and his family need to suck it up and take accountability for his losses and stop blaming people.

Mayweather Sr is an easy target do to his ebonics, slurring and flamboyancy but the man knows the sport well, and even if he was 5 min late here and there, Iam sure Ricky could have jumped rope or hit the heavy bag while he was waiting

You're missing the point, mon ami. I'm not blaming Floyd for the loss, nor am I saying the outcome would of been any different had he had a 100% perfect trainging camp. I'm saying that Floyd takes no responsibility for the loss, at all. I put it to you again that he would be telling all and sundry he was the mastermind behind it all had Ricky caught Manny cold.

It's his hypocrisy, not the manner of the loss, that I take umbridge with.

[JT Rock]

I accept that. But for me, Ricky reverted to type much earlier than in previous fights (it always happens, lets face it)...and that was as a result of the fact he went into the ring feeling under prepared due to the poor camp.

......annnnnd I'm not saying Ricky would of won the fight if the prep was different, before anyone jumps on it, simply that Floyd has to accept he was complicit in the manner of the loss. Which he won't

Thats ridiculous and preposterous Steelie!!!! How was Ricky undertrained and not prepared? I know you guys get the inside track on Hattons official forum but Ricky is full of excuses in both losses or should I say 3 with Colazzo.

You mean to tell me that on the biggest fight of Ricky's career, the redemption after the floyd KO, he wasnt prepared? Seriously??

So Graham is a chump because Floyd Ko'd him

Mayweather sr is a chump because Pac knocked him 10 shades of out.

1) Did Ricky move his head.... NO

2) Did Ricky Jab his way in...... NO

3) Did Ricky look scared after the 1st Pac right hook... Yes

4) Did Ricky become unraveled and bottled it hoping to walk into a KO punch because he wasnt willing to go to war with Pac.... Yes

Ricky and his family need to suck it up and take accountability for his losses and stop blaming people.

Mayweather Sr is an easy target do to his ebonics, slurring and flamboyancy but the man knows the sport well, and even if he was 5 min late here and there, Iam sure Ricky could have jumped rope or hit the heavy bag while he was waiting

You're missing the point, mon ami. I'm not blaming Floyd for the loss, nor am I saying the outcome would of been any different had he had a 100% perfect trainging camp. I'm saying that Floyd takes no responsibility for the loss, at all. I put it to you again that he would be telling all and sundry he was the mastermind behind it all had Ricky caught Manny cold.

It's his hypocrisy, not the manner of the loss, that I take umbridge with.

My sincerest apologies than. I had become a fan of Ricky's a few years back and I dont see the shame in losing to the past 2 PFP#1's

Just feel like Ricky and his camp should be more graceful in defeat, just seems like a huge insecurity and damage control.

IMO I feel no matter the weight or the trainer, Ricky could never outbox Floyd jr. I was 100% convinced Ricky would maul and grind Pac down. I know he has a bout of Red a$$ and embarrassment but I feel like it rubs poo on Ricky's nice guy persona when the excuses come a flying