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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    Quote Originally Posted by steelie View Post
    Let me put it this way - if Ricky had of caught Manny cold and won...would Snr have taken any credit?
    Not really the issue. If Ricky had respected Manny a bit more & fought sensibly how Floyd Sr had told him to & THEN got KO'd, then it would be easy to put the blame on him. However, he fought like a pub drunk & got beaten down like one, so the blame is all on Ricky

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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by steelie View Post
    Let me put it this way - if Ricky had of caught Manny cold and won...would Snr have taken any credit?
    Not really the issue. If Ricky had respected Manny a bit more & fought sensibly how Floyd Sr had told him to & THEN got KO'd, then it would be easy to put the blame on him. However, he fought like a pub drunk & got beaten down like one, so the blame is all on Ricky
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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    We can't blame Floyd Sr. of Ricky's brutal KO loss but Sr. behaviour/actions during fight build up, training camp and during fight night were not praiseworthy either... Coming in late in training camp then on fight night, coming late again and then left early when Ricky still on the canvass... Where's your respect and professionalism Mr. Sr.??
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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    We can't blame Floyd Sr. of Ricky's brutal KO loss but Sr. behaviour/actions during fight build up, training camp and during fight night were not praiseworthy either... Coming in late in training camp then on fight night, coming late again and then left early when Ricky still on the canvass... Where's your respect and professionalism Mr. Sr.??
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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    FDloyd Sr. is a classless asshole, he deserves a little of the blame, but Hatton is just over the hill he is the same anymore. Hatton didn't follow the gameplan and Pacquiao was just too quick. Hatton didn't jab and move his head and he wasn't patient. It was clear from the beggining that Pacquiao was respecting power and agression. Hatton didn't respect Pacquiao's speed and power. As soon as Hatton got knocked down he should have told himself that ok this guy is going to be tough I'm not at my peak anymore and I need to start trying to box this dude. He didn't and he and his fans payed the price for it.

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    This stuff is hillarious, during the 24/7 and all that crap, everyone was hyped, floyd and ricky looked great, hell they even had time to crack jokes, learn about the cops and kool aid, wear thongs so on and so forth. No one had a problem. But after ??!!!......look everyone looses. It cracks me up how fans act after a loss, like they thought it could never happen. Even i'm not all that excited about the little floyd coming back and potshot/countering marquez all night but damn if pac was off all this time would he jump right in with floyd that had been fighting this whole time ? He deserves a easy fight. Hell all this pac floyd talk is way premature anyways, pac could get beat by shane and all everyone will do is erase pac's name and put in shane's and re-post. Whoa i'm getting off topic, anyhow bottom line floyd did his job gave hatton the tools, hatton got in the ring took his tool belt off said screw it got ko'ed fight over. I can't belive anyone really expected floyd sr to be bedside feeding him applesauce after.
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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    Floyd Mayweather Sr had nothing to do with Ricky losing this fight.


    I said in January when the fight was announced that Ricky had no chance. But I UNDERSTOOD why he had to fight Pac.


    Ricky's mission in life was redemption at Floyd Jr. He had exactly one avenue to secure a rematch: Beat Manny Pacquaio. So even though myself and much of the boxing world, (and likely Ricky himself) knew the fight was not winnable, you tell me what other choice he had to avenge his loss?



    Whoever said "Jesus could have trained Ricky and it wouldnt have mattered" was spot on. This whole fight boiled down basically to 'could Ricky land some crazy body shot from nowhere and crumple Manny?'.


    He was never in it, and as much as I hate to say it, since Im a MASSIVE Hatton fan, I dont really rate Ricky much higher than Arturo Gatti. Both guys are a ball to watch fight, and when you put them in with other scrappers of equal caliber its a joy to behold.


    Put either against any type of elite fighter, and its game over.

    Ricky peaked against Kostya and headbutted his way through many defenses after. I knew floyd woudl beat him, I knew pac would beat him. But he had no choice but to fight both.

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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    its funny how people say ricky wasn't jabbing when he is coming in...

    ricky actually landed a jab coming in right on pacs face at the same moment pac was throwing and knocking hatton out cold.

    Just cause ricky look horrible didn't mean he didn't try the things he was suppose to do. NOthing worked for him because pac was too fast and ricky couldn't take pacs power. end of.

    It really didn't matter who rickys trainier was, hell oscar had like 10 trainiers on his corner when he fought pac. did it help?

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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    Seems like there are a lot of people here jumping in saying Floyd Sr. had no blame in Ricky's lose.

    He get's "part" of the blame just like every other member of Hatton's team.

    He accepted the job and proclaimed load and clear in a boastful manner that his fighter "Ricky Hatton" would be ready. He wasn't!

    He even stated it doesn't matter if Ricky uses his jab or not Pacquiao can't handle Ricky's pressure.

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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    Exactly. Where is his class?

    I'll take the loss, I'll accept that Ricky could of had Angelo Dundee, Cus D'Amato and Brendan Ingle in his corner and the outcome probably wouldn't of been any different...but I won't accept that Snr walks away from this with his hands clean.

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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    Quote Originally Posted by steelie View Post
    Exactly. Where is his class?

    I'll take the loss, I'll accept that Ricky could of had Angelo Dundee, Cus D'Amato and Brendan Ingle in his corner and the outcome probably wouldn't of been any different...but I won't accept that Snr walks away from this with his hands clean.
    Precisely...

    Looked like Team Hatton had a bad camp and Sr. should be made accountable for that... As the head trainer, it's his total responsibility to properly prepare Ricky for the fight not only physically but also mentally...

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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    We can't blame Floyd Sr. of Ricky's brutal KO loss but Sr. behaviour/actions during fight build up, training camp and during fight night were not praiseworthy either... Coming in late in training camp then on fight night, coming late again and then left early when Ricky still on the canvass... Where's your respect and professionalism Mr. Sr.??
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    Yep, totally agree with that. Mayweather acted way out of line in how he approached camp. Meanwhile, Hatton went out and fought like a plonker. It was a very unhealthy approach and the price was paid.

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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    We can't blame Floyd Sr. of Ricky's brutal KO loss but Sr. behaviour/actions during fight build up, training camp and during fight night were not praiseworthy either... Coming in late in training camp then on fight night, coming late again and then left early when Ricky still on the canvass... Where's your respect and professionalism Mr. Sr.??
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    Ricky's been in the game long enough to know what to do before a fight. To say Floyd's actions had anything to do with Hatton getting knocked the fukk out even in the slightest is stupid. Why are they even brought up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    We can't blame Floyd Sr. of Ricky's brutal KO loss but Sr. behaviour/actions during fight build up, training camp and during fight night were not praiseworthy either... Coming in late in training camp then on fight night, coming late again and then left early when Ricky still on the canvass... Where's your respect and professionalism Mr. Sr.??
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    Ricky's been in the game long enough to know what to do before a fight. To say Floyd's actions had anything to do with Hatton getting knocked the fukk out even in the slightest is stupid. Why are they even brought up?

    not the primary reason no

    but small things can all add up and it was quite clear on the night ricky was not in the right frame of mind
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    Default Re: Floyd Sr. talking about Ricky Hatton and more...

    Floyd Sr. after round 1: Keep your hands up and move your head like we worked on in training.

    Round 2: Ricky keeps his head stationary and his hands down.

    If Ricky followed the gameplan and won convincingly of course Floyd would take the credit why wouldn't he?

    The fact of the matter is Floyd layed out a gameplan and Ricky DECIDED not to follow it, can't blame the trainer for that.

    And of course he's in it for the money it's his job.
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