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    Default Re: Haye v Arreola anybody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    The injury was made up?

    Evidence?
    No legit back injury heals in 3 weeks. And if he's really hurt, why not show the medical report to the Klitschko camp? Is there even one?
    What specifally is the problem with his back?

    He said he'd be ready to fight on July 25th. That's more than 3 weeks, right?
    That's a great question. What exactly is wrong with his back? Is there really a back problem? Or is it a heart problem?

    And now it's July 25th? LOL. I'm not surprised. According to him it was July 11th.

    Wladimir Klitschko replaces injured David Haye with Ruslan Chagaev for June 20 fight - ESPN

    Predictable. No doubt July 25th would of turned into August 8th if Wlad would of gave him his way.

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    Default Re: Haye v Arreola anybody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    No legit back injury heals in 3 weeks. And if he's really hurt, why not show the medical report to the Klitschko camp? Is there even one?
    What specifally is the problem with his back?

    He said he'd be ready to fight on July 25th. That's more than 3 weeks, right?
    That's a great question. What exactly is wrong with his back? Is there really a back problem? Or is it a heart problem?

    And now it's July 25th? LOL. I'm not surprised. According to him it was July 11th.

    Wladimir Klitschko replaces injured David Haye with Ruslan Chagaev for June 20 fight - ESPN

    Predictable. No doubt July 25th would of turned into August 8th if Wlad would of gave him his way.
    Booth said: "It looks like there will be only a three-week delay from the original fight date with respect to David's readiness, which hopefully means that Wladimir will only postpone the fight, rather than cancel it."

    "LOOKS LIKE a three week delay"

    That report basically destroys your theory about Haye's heart being questioned.

    From those quotes it's blatantly OBVIOUS Haye/Booth didn't produce the medical report because they were trying to hide just how bad the injury really was. They were still hoping to fight Wlad at that stage and were clearly trying to stall Team Klit from making the Chagaev fight.
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    Default Re: Haye v Arreola anybody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    What specifally is the problem with his back?

    He said he'd be ready to fight on July 25th. That's more than 3 weeks, right?
    That's a great question. What exactly is wrong with his back? Is there really a back problem? Or is it a heart problem?

    And now it's July 25th? LOL. I'm not surprised. According to him it was July 11th.

    Wladimir Klitschko replaces injured David Haye with Ruslan Chagaev for June 20 fight - ESPN

    Predictable. No doubt July 25th would of turned into August 8th if Wlad would of gave him his way.
    Booth said: "It looks like there will be only a three-week delay from the original fight date with respect to David's readiness, which hopefully means that Wladimir will only postpone the fight, rather than cancel it."

    "LOOKS LIKE a three week delay"

    That report basically destroys your theory about Haye's heart being questioned.

    From those quotes it's blatantly OBVIOUS Haye/Booth didn't produce the medical report because they were trying to hide just how bad the injury really was. They were still hoping to fight Wlad at that stage and were clearly trying to stall Team Klit from making the Chagaev fight.
    So it went from July 11th to July 25th, right?

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    Default Re: Haye v Arreola anybody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    That's a great question. What exactly is wrong with his back? Is there really a back problem? Or is it a heart problem?

    And now it's July 25th? LOL. I'm not surprised. According to him it was July 11th.

    Wladimir Klitschko replaces injured David Haye with Ruslan Chagaev for June 20 fight - ESPN

    Predictable. No doubt July 25th would of turned into August 8th if Wlad would of gave him his way.
    Booth said: "It looks like there will be only a three-week delay from the original fight date with respect to David's readiness, which hopefully means that Wladimir will only postpone the fight, rather than cancel it."

    "LOOKS LIKE a three week delay"

    That report basically destroys your theory about Haye's heart being questioned.

    From those quotes it's blatantly OBVIOUS Haye/Booth didn't produce the medical report because they were trying to hide just how bad the injury really was. They were still hoping to fight Wlad at that stage and were clearly trying to stall Team Klit from making the Chagaev fight.
    So it went from July 11th to July 25th, right?
    The July 25th date has been revealed since they lost all hope of saving the fight.

    OBVIOUSLY they first said three weeks from June 20th because they were trying to save the fight.

    A three week delay and maybe Wlad would have gone for it. They knew Wlad would walk any later than that.. or they simply didn't realise how bad the injury was when the first reports came out.

    Either way it makes perfect sense.
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    Default Re: Haye v Arreola anybody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    Booth said: "It looks like there will be only a three-week delay from the original fight date with respect to David's readiness, which hopefully means that Wladimir will only postpone the fight, rather than cancel it."

    "LOOKS LIKE a three week delay"

    That report basically destroys your theory about Haye's heart being questioned.

    From those quotes it's blatantly OBVIOUS Haye/Booth didn't produce the medical report because they were trying to hide just how bad the injury really was. They were still hoping to fight Wlad at that stage and were clearly trying to stall Team Klit from making the Chagaev fight.
    So it went from July 11th to July 25th, right?
    The July 25th date has been revealed since they lost all hope of saving the fight.

    OBVIOUSLY they first said three weeks from June 20th because they were trying to save the fight.

    A three week delay and maybe Wlad would have gone for it. They knew Wlad would walk any later than that.. or they simply didn't realise how bad the injury was when the first reports came out.

    Either way it makes perfect sense.
    It made perfect sense for Wlad to move on. With no medical report all they had was there word to go by it. What assurances did he have that July 25th doesn't turn into August 8th and so on?

    If his back is that bad than show proof and cancel. Why try and supposely fight in 3 weeks? Is it to not lose the fight? If that's the case than fight now. What's the difference?

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    Default Re: Haye v Arreola anybody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    So it went from July 11th to July 25th, right?
    The July 25th date has been revealed since they lost all hope of saving the fight.

    OBVIOUSLY they first said three weeks from June 20th because they were trying to save the fight.

    A three week delay and maybe Wlad would have gone for it. They knew Wlad would walk any later than that.. or they simply didn't realise how bad the injury was when the first reports came out.

    Either way it makes perfect sense.
    It made perfect sense for Wlad to move on. With no medical report all they had was there word to go by it. What assurances did he have that July 25th doesn't turn into August 8th and so on?

    If his back is that bad than show proof and cancel. Why try and supposely fight in 3 weeks? Is it to not lose the fight? If that's the case than fight now. What's the difference?
    You've basically answered your own question in the first part. He can't fight now because he's injured. Yes it makes perfect sense for Wlad to move on. Haye's injury was WORSE than originally let on, so wouldn't have made the 11th anyway.

    They were being optimistic about the injury healing within three weeks. They ONLY revealed it wouldn't once Wlad-Chagaev was a done deal. They knew the fight was gone so had no reason to try and hide the severness of the injury.

    That proves Haye was doing his BEST to save the fight.
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    Default Re: Haye v Arreola anybody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post

    The July 25th date has been revealed since they lost all hope of saving the fight.

    OBVIOUSLY they first said three weeks from June 20th because they were trying to save the fight.

    A three week delay and maybe Wlad would have gone for it. They knew Wlad would walk any later than that.. or they simply didn't realise how bad the injury was when the first reports came out.

    Either way it makes perfect sense.
    It made perfect sense for Wlad to move on. With no medical report all they had was there word to go by it. What assurances did he have that July 25th doesn't turn into August 8th and so on?

    If his back is that bad than show proof and cancel. Why try and supposely fight in 3 weeks? Is it to not lose the fight? If that's the case than fight now. What's the difference?
    You've basically answered your own question in the first part. He can't fight now because he's injured. Yes it makes perfect sense for Wlad to move on. Haye's injury was WORSE than originally let on, so wouldn't have made the 11th anyway.

    They were being optimistic about the injury healing within three weeks. They ONLY revealed it wouldn't once Wlad-Chagaev was a done deal. They knew the fight was gone so had no reason to try and hide the severness of the injury.

    That proves Haye was doing his BEST to save the fight.
    You know what? I'll give you that. Let's say Haye was trying to be optimistic about healing in 3 weeks. But couldn't. Ok. Stuff happens. Injury happen. Understandable. Now help me understand something else. With that being said, how the hell can it even be said or considered that Wlad is ducking Haye by moving on? How is that? I'm not saying that came from you. But I know you seen them. Maybe as somebody from that side of the world you can explain that reasoning to me.

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