WTF Happened with Haye?!

[Fenster]

OK in the past 50 years how many "World Class" Cruiserweights have really gone on to be spectacular at heavyweight?

I can tell you right now without even looking it up that more light heavyweights have done better in the heavyweight division than cruiserweights.

What does that have to do with anything? How many had the desire or size to fight at heavyweight?

The division has only been around since the early 80s anyway. That's not even 30 years of history let alone 50.

[El Kabong]

OK so fine since cruiserweight started who has moved up and done things at heavyweight? And yes this is relevant because either you're saying "This happens all the time, cruiserweights routinely move up and become champions" OR you're saying "David Haye is skilled like no other cruiserweight bar Evander Holyfield"....and I think either way you look at it that's pretty damn stupid.

The TRUTH of the matter is that light heavyweights who move up to heavyweight have done better than cruiserweights....that's a FACT.

Do you think Tomaz Adamek could hang with any halfway decent heavyweight How about Steve Cunningham? Hell Vassily Jirov was one of the best cruiserweights around and he moved up to heavyweight, had a decent fight vs Joe Mesi (a very average fighter) and then ended up getting beat down by the likes of an old Michael Moorer and he ended up fighting to a draw with ORLIN NORRIS!!!!

[Fenster]

OK so fine since cruiserweight started who has moved up and done things at heavyweight? And yes this is relevant because either you're saying "This happens all the time, cruiserweights routinely move up and become champions" OR you're saying "David Haye is skilled like no other cruiserweight bar Evander Holyfield"....and I think either way you look at it that's pretty damn stupid.

The TRUTH of the matter is that light heavyweights who move up to heavyweight have done better than cruiserweights....that's a FACT.

Do you think Tomaz Adamek could hang with any halfway decent heavyweight How about Steve Cunningham? Hell Vassily Jirov was one of the best cruiserweights around and he moved up to heavyweight, had a decent fight vs Joe Mesi (a very average fighter) and then ended up getting beat down by the likes of an old Michael Moorer and he ended up fighting to a draw with ORLIN NORRIS!!!!

I'm not saying either.

I'm saying Haye has proven himself a world-class fighter.

It's irrelevant whether or not he's a success at heavyweight. If he can't cope at heavyweight it will be because the weight difference was too much for him, not because he couldn't hack it ability wise. This is NO different to ANY other world-class fighter from ANY other division attempting a rise in weight.

[ono]

OK so fine since cruiserweight started who has moved up and done things at heavyweight? And yes this is relevant because either you're saying "This happens all the time, cruiserweights routinely move up and become champions" OR you're saying "David Haye is skilled like no other cruiserweight bar Evander Holyfield"....and I think either way you look at it that's pretty damn stupid.

The TRUTH of the matter is that light heavyweights who move up to heavyweight have done better than cruiserweights....that's a FACT.

Do you think Tomaz Adamek could hang with any halfway decent heavyweight How about Steve Cunningham? Hell Vassily Jirov was one of the best cruiserweights around and he moved up to heavyweight, had a decent fight vs Joe Mesi (a very average fighter) and then ended up getting beat down by the likes of an old Michael Moorer and he ended up fighting to a draw with ORLIN NORRIS!!!!

Yeah but that has no relevance whatsoever as none of them are David Haye.