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    Default Re: Arum to Bunce: "Sturm in October, Froch in January is the plan"

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    Sturm would be instead of Mora dude, if they can make the Sturm fight, Mora will be out of the picture.
    isn't the Mora fight already signed and scheduled though?
    It looks like they pretty much screwed Mora out of the fight in order to face Sturm.
    ok, i mean i really wouldn't give Mora that much of a chance in winning but hell, waving a HUGE payday in the guys face then getting the boot for a Sturm fight (even though its a more significant fight), seems a bit harsh

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    Default Re: Arum to Bunce: "Sturm in October, Froch in January is the plan"

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    isn't the Mora fight already signed and scheduled though?
    It looks like they pretty much screwed Mora out of the fight in order to face Sturm.
    ok, i mean i really wouldn't give Mora that much of a chance in winning but hell, waving a HUGE payday in the guys face then getting the boot for a Sturm fight (even though its a more significant fight), seems a bit harsh
    He's probably the fallback option. To be fair, he was lucky to receive the shot in the first place. The Sturm fight is much better for boxing though. I'm really tired of the Middleweight champions taking less meaningful fights when they should be fighting each other.

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    Default Re: Arum to Bunce: "Sturm in October, Froch in January is the plan"

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    It looks like they pretty much screwed Mora out of the fight in order to face Sturm.
    ok, i mean i really wouldn't give Mora that much of a chance in winning but hell, waving a HUGE payday in the guys face then getting the boot for a Sturm fight (even though its a more significant fight), seems a bit harsh
    He's probably the fallback option. To be fair, he was lucky to receive the shot in the first place. The Sturm fight is much better for boxing though. I'm really tired of the Middleweight champions taking less meaningful fights when they should be fighting each other.
    I certainly don't disagree with any of that, though it's starting to look like Pavlik's people might be trying to keep him away from Abraham (the only MW fight I really want to see), but Pavlik and Mora had signed the contracts and at that point the fight should happen unless there is a legitimate reason to cancel it.

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    Default Re: Arum to Bunce: "Sturm in October, Froch in January is the plan"

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    It looks like they pretty much screwed Mora out of the fight in order to face Sturm.
    ok, i mean i really wouldn't give Mora that much of a chance in winning but hell, waving a HUGE payday in the guys face then getting the boot for a Sturm fight (even though its a more significant fight), seems a bit harsh
    He's probably the fallback option. To be fair, he was lucky to receive the shot in the first place. The Sturm fight is much better for boxing though. I'm really tired of the Middleweight champions taking less meaningful fights when they should be fighting each other.
    oh i'm completely with you on the Sturm fight having a lot more significance, but what bothers me is that if you sign the contract to fight the guy, already have the fight scheduled and the fight is given the green light, you should honor the deal, even if Mora was lucky to get the shot, if they had a deal made already they should honor it, then fight Sturm next, don't see why he cant fight Mora during the summer and take on Sturm come October or November

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    Default Re: Arum to Bunce: "Sturm in October, Froch in January is the plan"

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    ok, i mean i really wouldn't give Mora that much of a chance in winning but hell, waving a HUGE payday in the guys face then getting the boot for a Sturm fight (even though its a more significant fight), seems a bit harsh
    He's probably the fallback option. To be fair, he was lucky to receive the shot in the first place. The Sturm fight is much better for boxing though. I'm really tired of the Middleweight champions taking less meaningful fights when they should be fighting each other.
    oh i'm completely with you on the Sturm fight having a lot more significance, but what bothers me is that if you sign the contract to fight the guy, already have the fight scheduled and the fight is given the green light, you should honor the deal, even if Mora was lucky to get the shot, if they had a deal made already they should honor it, then fight Sturm next, don't see why he cant fight Mora during the summer and take on Sturm come October or November

    It reminds me alot of the situation when Cintron signed to fight Williams in a unification, got injured and then talked about fighting every other fighter but Williams. As for the Summer date, I imagine it'll come down to what dates they can get with HBO. You're 100% correct there is time to do it, but I'm betting they've seen the Mora fight as a high risk-low reward fight. Remember, Pavlik's people weren't exactly thrilled with the Mora fight, and Pavlik's Dad released a statement saying they were pissed at Top Rank for cancelling the bout, yet a few days later Kelly signed a new multi-fight deal with Arum. I'm betting that a condition to sign was that they got a better fight than Mora for him.

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    Default Re: Arum to Bunce: "Sturm in October, Froch in January is the plan"

    career defining fight for my man, I know he can take Pavlik. It will be so good if this happens, Carl finally gets notion for once from a top promoter

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    Default Re: Arum to Bunce: "Sturm in October, Froch in January is the plan"

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    career defining fight for my man, I know he can take Pavlik. It will be so good if this happens, Carl finally gets notion for once from a top promoter
    thing is if Pavlik drops Froch the way Taylor did, he finishes him, that being said, it's a toss up fight

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    Default Re: Arum to Bunce: "Sturm in October, Froch in January is the plan"

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    career defining fight for my man, I know he can take Pavlik. It will be so good if this happens, Carl finally gets notion for once from a top promoter
    thing is if Pavlik drops Froch the way Taylor did, he finishes him, that being said, it's a toss up fight
    Pavlik wont be as fasting starting as Taylor was, if Taylor fights in the first 5 rounds throughout the whole 12 he would beat ANY fighter believe me on that one. I think your correct its a pick em fight, but Pavlik wouldnt have fough anybody like Froch before, whos shown he can really dig deep when he needs too. I think its a battle of power and who has the better chin, both like to apply pressure and come forward thats why I think this fight really could have fight of the year written all over it.

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    Default Re: Arum to Bunce: "Sturm in October, Froch in January is the plan"

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    isn't the Mora fight already signed and scheduled though?
    It looks like they pretty much screwed Mora out of the fight in order to face Sturm.
    ok, i mean i really wouldn't give Mora that much of a chance in winning but hell, waving a HUGE payday in the guys face then getting the boot for a Sturm fight (even though its a more significant fight), seems a bit harsh
    I know. I'm one of the very few Mora fans and while I didn't think he had much of a shot versus Pavlik, I wanted to see him prove me wrong (like he did against Forrest) and collect a nice paycheck in the process. The contracts were all signed and then Pavlik pulls out, ostensibly because he cut his finger and got an infection. Although after Arum canceled the Mora fight, Pavlik came out and said he would've been fine to go on with it.

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