Pacquiao's Accomplishments aren't really that Great

[mnmc10]

DeLaHoya-Weight drain and shot

pac was the underdog, even i predicted that odlh will win. but pac got the balls to fight oskie and thats good enough.

Hatton- Was never an elite fighter, and past his boxing prime

comparing the manner of how pac disposed of hatton compared to pbf wheter hatton is a class b fighter is impressive!

Marquez- Most boxing experts and fans say he lost both fights despite the 4 knockdowns

most boxing experts agreed that the 4 kd was not scored properly by the judge. but imho jmm has a win over pac, and to me only jmm has the ability to beat pac.

Barrera- A shot fighter and past his boxing prime even though he was only 29, been in too many wars.

BS!!! ask missy!

Morales- Past his boxing prime because of all the wars Erik has been in. He wasn't past his physical prime, but his boxing prime for sure.

morales though in the decline proved that he is still a worthy opponent. and only pac KO'd morales granite chin.


you also have to consider the weight divisions pac went through. he is actually too small to be at his present weight division but he still manages. heck a 5'6" this midget is being pitted to mosley, cotto and the likes?!

[Howlin Mad Missy]

DeLaHoya-Weight drain and shot

pac was the underdog, even i predicted that odlh will win. but pac got the balls to fight oskie and thats good enough.

Hatton- Was never an elite fighter, and past his boxing prime

comparing the manner of how pac disposed of hatton compared to pbf wheter hatton is a class b fighter is impressive!

Marquez- Most boxing experts and fans say he lost both fights despite the 4 knockdowns

most boxing experts agreed that the 4 kd was not scored properly by the judge. but imho jmm has a win over pac, and to me only jmm has the ability to beat pac.

Barrera- A shot fighter and past his boxing prime even though he was only 29, been in too many wars.

BS!!! ask missy!

Morales- Past his boxing prime because of all the wars Erik has been in. He wasn't past his physical prime, but his boxing prime for sure.

morales though in the decline proved that he is still a worthy opponent. and only pac KO'd morales granite chin.


you also have to consider the weight divisions pac went through. he is actually too small to be at his present weight division but he still manages. heck a 5'6" this midget is being pitted to mosley, cotto and the likes?!

I could tell you something about both fights but then I'd have to kill you and it has nothing to do with being shot ..........actually that doesn't sound too bad a deal when I come to think about it.


BTW. The above is true.

FACT

As for the debate. I think Pac has been very lucky and is well managed.

[Fenster]

I could tell you something about Barrera-Pac too but i'd have to kill you. Fact.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I could tell you something about Barrera-Pac too but i'd have to kill you. Fact.

I'm sure you could but it wouldn't be the exclusive mine would be

All this killing sounds like some boxing jihad-a-thon.

[Fenster]

I could tell you something about Barrera-Pac too but i'd have to kill you. Fact.

I'm sure you could but it wouldn't be the exclusive mine would be

All this killing sounds like some boxing jihad-a-thon.

You think your story is more exclusive than mine? No chance.

I'd love to tell it but sadly can't.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I could tell you something about Barrera-Pac too but i'd have to kill you. Fact.

I'm sure you could but it wouldn't be the exclusive mine would be

All this killing sounds like some boxing jihad-a-thon.

You think your story is more exclusive than mine? No chance.

I'd love to tell it but sadly can't.

Bet you it isn't.
My dad can beat up your dad.

[X]

It frustrates me a bit when poeople build these elaborate arguments to demean or put down a fighters's record or accomplishments.

One of the reasons why politics in so poorly regarded is that all involved simply spent time tearing down each other down, ridiculing their policies and calling each other liars. We chose to believe all of them and none of them at the same time - with the inevitable result that we think all politicians are liars, cheats and scoundrels.

So, here we are - all boxing fans to a greater or lesser extent - and we think we win an argument by totally trashing someone who is within our sport. We allow our judgement of fighters to be swayed by ridicilous unbeaten records, by silly hype and 'trash talking' and then we wonder why this great sport is now relegated to being a minority activity.

So ..... lets look at this thread title: (Pacs accomplishments aren't really that great). here we have a guy who fought his weight out of poverty, comes from a country with few world class boxers to learn from, is fighting in the less well-regarded lower divisions, and is an ethnic filipino (when the biggest TV markets are in the US or Europe).

Today he is a five weight world champion, generally regarded as being in the top two pound for pound fighters on the planet and is pretty secure of being a hall of Famer and a person whose ghost will haunt fighters for some time in the future.

When an outsider who doesn't know what argumentative petty idiots we boxing fans are hears those arguments, he - or she - may assume that the ebstwe can offer is not reallt that good. may as well watch pro wrestling or MMA instead