Next for Cotto...

[XaduBoxer]

That's exactly what was going thru my mind a little during the fight and after the fight. Cotto isn't invincible like he once was. That Margarito fight took a lot out of him and there were times where this fight looked very similar to that Margarito-Cotto fight. Before the fight I thought Cotto would beat Pacquiao, but after watching this I don't think he can. Clottey popped him a few times because of Cotto showing defensive lapses. Pacquiao probably doesn't hit as hard as Clottey, but he would be a lot quicker and more of the aggressor and I hate to say this, but I think Pacquiao would stop Cotto in the 8th or 9th round.

When was Cotto ever invincible? Part of his mystique is the fact that he's always showed vulnerability. Ever since he emerged on the Lt. Welter scene he's appeared to be a flawed, vulnerable fighter; it's part of his appeal. The fact the he continues to succeed, despite the apparent weaknesses is part of the reason he is such a compelling fighter.

Some fans portrayed Cotto as some kind of invincible boxer at 140/147 when they talked about him when he was still undefeated... before the Margcheat fight...
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[C-Lo]

I hope we don't look too much into this Cotto situation. Cotto fought the way he did because of the cut. He would've pressed the action a lot more often if he could see out of his left side. He was just cautious of the right hand because he was getting tagged with it and because of the cut he couldn't see it coming.

Had Cotto fought with no cut, it would've been much different IMO.

[Gandalf]

I hope we don't look too much into this Cotto situation. Cotto fought the way he did because of the cut. He would've pressed the action a lot more often if he could see out of his left side. He was just cautious of the right hand because he was getting tagged with it and because of the cut he couldn't see it coming.

Had Cotto fought with no cut, it would've been much different IMO.

I agree. The cut was clearly a huge factor in how the fight developed. Cotto couldn't see and so was on the backfoot trying to stay out of range of the Clottey right. All things considered he deserves a lot of credit for seeing it through. He could have just stopped after the seventh and took a clear points win. But instead he gave the fans a fight and gutted it through.

The cut tarnished Cotto's performance here. I don't think he can be called past his best on what we saw. That's a little rash. It wasn't a razzle dazzle display but one where he needed to grind out the result. All fighters have these affairs on occasion. Floyd: Castillo 1 is one such fight. Cotto can and probably will perform better.

[BlackHawk]

I hope we don't look too much into this Cotto situation. Cotto fought the way he did because of the cut. He would've pressed the action a lot more often if he could see out of his left side. He was just cautious of the right hand because he was getting tagged with it and because of the cut he couldn't see it coming.

Had Cotto fought with no cut, it would've been much different IMO.

I agree. The cut was clearly a huge factor in how the fight developed. Cotto couldn't see and so was on the backfoot trying to stay out of range of the Clottey right. All things considered he deserves a lot of credit for seeing it through. He could have just stopped after the seventh and took a clear points win. But instead he gave the fans a fight and gutted it through.

The cut tarnished Cotto's performance here. I don't think he can be called past his best on what we saw. That's a little rash. It wasn't a razzle dazzle display but one where he needed to grind out the result. All fighters have these affairs on occasion. Floyd: Castillo 1 is one such fight. Cotto can and probably will perform better.

Cut is not a big deal here. I seen worst than that.


If you guys do remember. Juan Manuel Marquez have a cut and he don't run on PAC. Remember PAC can destroy anyone face and Juan Manuel Marquez did not run.

Cotto don't need to run. If Cotto didn't run he might won convincingly. But I have Clottey winning this one by micro edge.

[Pavlik]

I hope we don't look too much into this Cotto situation. Cotto fought the way he did because of the cut. He would've pressed the action a lot more often if he could see out of his left side. He was just cautious of the right hand because he was getting tagged with it and because of the cut he couldn't see it coming.

Had Cotto fought with no cut, it would've been much different IMO.

I agree. The cut was clearly a huge factor in how the fight developed. Cotto couldn't see and so was on the backfoot trying to stay out of range of the Clottey right. All things considered he deserves a lot of credit for seeing it through. He could have just stopped after the seventh and took a clear points win. But instead he gave the fans a fight and gutted it through.

The cut tarnished Cotto's performance here. I don't think he can be called past his best on what we saw. That's a little rash. It wasn't a razzle dazzle display but one where he needed to grind out the result. All fighters have these affairs on occasion. Floyd: Castillo 1 is one such fight. Cotto can and probably will perform better.

Cut is not a big deal here. I seen worst than that.


If you guys do remember. Juan Manuel Marquez have a cut and he don't run on PAC. Remember PAC can destroy anyone face and Juan Manuel Marquez did not run.

Cotto don't need to run. If Cotto didn't run he might won convincingly. But I have Clottey winning this one by micro edge.

Cotto got cut as early as the 3rd round and it was much larger than Marquez's cut MUCH LARGER. To give Cotto credit he was not dropped and wobbled in this fight considering he was cut bigtime.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I agree. The cut was clearly a huge factor in how the fight developed. Cotto couldn't see and so was on the backfoot trying to stay out of range of the Clottey right. All things considered he deserves a lot of credit for seeing it through. He could have just stopped after the seventh and took a clear points win. But instead he gave the fans a fight and gutted it through.

The cut tarnished Cotto's performance here. I don't think he can be called past his best on what we saw. That's a little rash. It wasn't a razzle dazzle display but one where he needed to grind out the result. All fighters have these affairs on occasion. Floyd: Castillo 1 is one such fight. Cotto can and probably will perform better.

Cut is not a big deal here. I seen worst than that.


If you guys do remember. Juan Manuel Marquez have a cut and he don't run on PAC. Remember PAC can destroy anyone face and Juan Manuel Marquez did not run.

Cotto don't need to run. If Cotto didn't run he might won convincingly. But I have Clottey winning this one by micro edge.

Cotto got cut as early as the 3rd round and it was much larger than Marquez's cut MUCH LARGER. To give Cotto credit he was not dropped and wobbled in this fight considering he was cut bigtime.

exactly, and if you rewatch the fight, it started out as 2 cuts then from Clottey banging on it, he ripped the bit of flesh that was seperating it and turned it into a huge gash, the thing was nasty looking, one of the worst cuts this year, i'd go so far to say that it was just as bad or worse than the Barrera gash, maybe not in size, but in how it took away from Cotto's ability to see out of the eye, don't see why Cotto's getting so much flack for moving back, he was boxing on the back foot, and yet would still whack Clottey with those big left hooks like he did in the 10th, it was a good fight, just as good or better than i expected it to be, instead of bitching about the decision (which i believe Cotto deserved the knod) we should be congratulating both for stepping up and taking on one of the most dangerous opponents available, they put it all on the line and should both get props for it, other fighters should take the same example

[XaduBoxer]

I think PAC is next for Cotto... The recent fight results and announcements is just perfect for a PAC-Cotto fight in October or November... Cotto won and PBF "injured" ....
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[markb018]

I hope we don't look too much into this Cotto situation. Cotto fought the way he did because of the cut. He would've pressed the action a lot more often if he could see out of his left side. He was just cautious of the right hand because he was getting tagged with it and because of the cut he couldn't see it coming.

Had Cotto fought with no cut, it would've been much different IMO.

I think seeing Cotto cut is just something we are going to have to deal with. Seems more often than not he is getting cut. I hate bringing up Pac, but he will be slicing and dicing his face all night long with those punches. Cotto won't be able to move out of the way. Margarito was landing easily and Clottey, yes there was the cut but again I won't be surprised when he is cut in future fights.

That being said I give all the respect in the world to Cotto for the fight last night, showed great heart

[ElTerribleMorales]

I hope we don't look too much into this Cotto situation. Cotto fought the way he did because of the cut. He would've pressed the action a lot more often if he could see out of his left side. He was just cautious of the right hand because he was getting tagged with it and because of the cut he couldn't see it coming.

Had Cotto fought with no cut, it would've been much different IMO.

I think seeing Cotto cut is just something we are going to have to deal with. Seems more often than not he is getting cut. I hate bringing up Pac, but he will be slicing and dicing his face all night long with those punches. Cotto won't be able to move out of the way. Margarito was landing easily and Clottey, yes there was the cut but again I won't be surprised when he is cut in future fights.

That being said I give all the respect in the world to Cotto for the fight last night, showed great heart

he was cut by a headbutt, and honestly if Hatton was able to pin Manny on the ropes, and yes, he was able to, Cotto, who's the stronger fighter would badly bang away on him, and IMO stop him

[Mr140]

I dont know use to think Cotto could beat pac but after last night not so sure about it i think pac speed could end Cotto going have to see. Really like to see a Mosley, Clotty or even a Margarito rematch before anything. Who do you think while win in the rematchs et just wondering is all.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I dont know use to think Cotto could beat pac but after last night not so sure about it i think pac speed could end Cotto going have to see. Really like to see a Mosley, Clotty or even a Margarito rematch before anything. Who do you think while win in the rematchs et just wondering is all.

honestly i think Cotto wins rematches against Margarito and Clottey handily
the real toss up would be the Mosley rematch, and i'd lean slightly towards Shane on that one

[mnmc10]

I hope we don't look too much into this Cotto situation. Cotto fought the way he did because of the cut. He would've pressed the action a lot more often if he could see out of his left side. He was just cautious of the right hand because he was getting tagged with it and because of the cut he couldn't see it coming.

Had Cotto fought with no cut, it would've been much different IMO.

I think seeing Cotto cut is just something we are going to have to deal with. Seems more often than not he is getting cut. I hate bringing up Pac, but he will be slicing and dicing his face all night long with those punches. Cotto won't be able to move out of the way. Margarito was landing easily and Clottey, yes there was the cut but again I won't be surprised when he is cut in future fights.

That being said I give all the respect in the world to Cotto for the fight last night, showed great heart

he was cut by a headbutt, and honestly if Hatton was able to pin Manny on the ropes, and yes, he was able to, Cotto, who's the stronger fighter would badly bang away on him, and IMO stop him

all except jmm had a perfect gameplan for pac, its only when they are in the ring that they realize that its not easy to manhandle pac. hatton bullied him for a while until pac let hatton taste his own medicine. diaz believed that he can handle pacs speed and we all know what he said after the fight.

** i only mentioned pac cause you guys are takking about him

cotto cant break clotteys defense, most of cottos punches landed on clotteys arms. why? and how can you break that guard?

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think seeing Cotto cut is just something we are going to have to deal with. Seems more often than not he is getting cut. I hate bringing up Pac, but he will be slicing and dicing his face all night long with those punches. Cotto won't be able to move out of the way. Margarito was landing easily and Clottey, yes there was the cut but again I won't be surprised when he is cut in future fights.

That being said I give all the respect in the world to Cotto for the fight last night, showed great heart

he was cut by a headbutt, and honestly if Hatton was able to pin Manny on the ropes, and yes, he was able to, Cotto, who's the stronger fighter would badly bang away on him, and IMO stop him

all except jmm had a perfect gameplan for pac, its only when they are in the ring that they realize that its not easy to manhandle pac. hatton bullied him for a while until pac let hatton taste his own medicine. diaz believed that he can handle pacs speed and we all know what he said after the fight.

** i only mentioned pac cause you guys are takking about him

cotto cant break clotteys defense, most of cottos punches landed on clotteys arms. why? and how can you break that guard?

Morales seemed to have the perfect gameplan when he beat Manny, and are you seriously trying to compare Miguel Cotto to David Diaz?

Cotto adapted to Clottey's defense while he was on the ropes and he would loop his hooks around Clottey's gloves and whack him on the side of the head, or he would shoot them straight down the pipe between the gloves, he didn't land everything but he hit Clottey plenty, and about the whacking Clottey's gloves, Cotto already had fractured another fighter's arm by doing the same exact thing, so why not do it on Clottey

back to the Pac thing, Hatton had Manny on the ropes, and Cotto looks like fucking Mayweather when you compare him to Hatton in terms of movement, defense, and overall boxing ability, he uses his jab, doesn't plod foward with his hands up, and he was fighting a guy who would make Manny look like Tiny Tim, so seriously if the fight against Cotto happens, anyone who thinks he's gonna blow him out like he did Hatton, is set for a rude awakening

[CFH]

he was cut by a headbutt, and honestly if Hatton was able to pin Manny on the ropes, and yes, he was able to, Cotto, who's the stronger fighter would badly bang away on him, and IMO stop him

all except jmm had a perfect gameplan for pac, its only when they are in the ring that they realize that its not easy to manhandle pac. hatton bullied him for a while until pac let hatton taste his own medicine. diaz believed that he can handle pacs speed and we all know what he said after the fight.

** i only mentioned pac cause you guys are takking about him

cotto cant break clotteys defense, most of cottos punches landed on clotteys arms. why? and how can you break that guard?

Morales seemed to have the perfect gameplan when he beat Manny, and are you seriously trying to compare Miguel Cotto to David Diaz?

Cotto adapted to Clottey's defense while he was on the ropes and he would loop his hooks around Clottey's gloves and whack him on the side of the head, or he would shoot them straight down the pipe between the gloves, he didn't land everything but he hit Clottey plenty, and about the whacking Clottey's gloves, Cotto already had fractured another fighter's arm by doing the same exact thing, so why not do it on Clottey

back to the Pac thing, Hatton had Manny on the ropes, and Cotto looks like fucking Mayweather when you compare him to Hatton in terms of movement, defense, and overall boxing ability, he uses his jab, doesn't plod foward with his hands up, and he was fighting a guy who would make Manny look like Tiny Tim, so seriously if the fight against Cotto happens, anyone who thinks he's gonna blow him out like he did Hatton, is set for a rude awakening

Hatton is a lot faster than Cotto though, which is why he was able to (very briefly) pin Pac against the ropes. Does Cotto have the foot and hand speed to do the same thing, especially considering the figh will probably be at 143-145 (which is total bullshit IMO)?