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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    I said I thought Manny would win before the Clottey fight but this is still an interesting fight, Cotto could at least revert back somewhat to the search and destroy mode which is where he's at his best.

    Still my reasoning for picking Manny was that I thought Manny's foot speed, lateral movement and hand speed would cause Cotto problems. But its still a hell of a fight on paper IMO. Nobody would look good against Clottey. I would still pick Cotto in a Mosley rematch.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    I think people are overreacting. Cotto suffered a nasty cut that impaired his vision. Even Amir Khan was able to look good after assaulting Barrera's head with an axe. Cuts can make a difference in a fight and it did here too.

    Cotto would probably bust Pac up even now. It's interesting hearing all this talk about Cotto being past his best because I really don't think he is. I would really like to see Manny walk through half a dozen Cotto body shots unscathed.

    Bring it on, I say. I'm getting sick of the little midget and his big mouthed trainer.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I think people are overreacting. Cotto suffered a nasty cut that impaired his vision. Even Amir Khan was able to look good after assaulting Barrera's head with an axe. Cuts can make a difference in a fight and it did here too.

    Cotto would probably bust Pac up even now. It's interesting hearing all this talk about Cotto being past his best because I really don't think he is. I would really like to see Manny walk through half a dozen Cotto body shots unscathed.

    Bring it on, I say. I'm getting sick of the little midget and his big mouthed trainer.
    Word of advice mate... Be prepared to get sick more...
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I think people are overreacting. Cotto suffered a nasty cut that impaired his vision. Even Amir Khan was able to look good after assaulting Barrera's head with an axe. Cuts can make a difference in a fight and it did here too.

    Cotto would probably bust Pac up even now. It's interesting hearing all this talk about Cotto being past his best because I really don't think he is. I would really like to see Manny walk through half a dozen Cotto body shots unscathed.

    Bring it on, I say. I'm getting sick of the little midget and his big mouthed trainer.
    Word of advice mate... Be prepared to get sick more...
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    Haha! I shall copiously vomit all over the place. Might even include a bit of projectile puking in for good measure.

    I'm just cynical. People are saying Cotto is past it and here is Manny saying let's have a Cotto fight. Get out there and fight Mosley, you little poof! I'm not into this looking for weaknesses and then trying to make the match nonsense. I want the best to fight the best. Mosley is a cracking fight and it's a shame they won't fight him.

    I hope Cotto has plenty left and beats him up. And let's not go into this catcweight of 141 and quarter pounds rubbish. You want a WW, well go up to WW and fight him. I'm sick of this pansified drivel.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I think people are overreacting. Cotto suffered a nasty cut that impaired his vision. Even Amir Khan was able to look good after assaulting Barrera's head with an axe. Cuts can make a difference in a fight and it did here too.

    Cotto would probably bust Pac up even now. It's interesting hearing all this talk about Cotto being past his best because I really don't think he is. I would really like to see Manny walk through half a dozen Cotto body shots unscathed.

    Bring it on, I say. I'm getting sick of the little midget and his big mouthed trainer.
    Word of advice mate... Be prepared to get sick more...
    .
    Haha! I shall copiously vomit all over the place. Might even include a bit of projectile puking in for good measure.

    I'm just cynical. People are saying Cotto is past it and here is Manny saying let's have a Cotto fight. Get out there and fight Mosley, you little poof! I'm not into this looking for weaknesses and then trying to make the match nonsense. I want the best to fight the best. Mosley is a cracking fight and it's a shame they won't fight him.

    I hope Cotto has plenty left and beats him up. And let's not go into this catcweight of 141 and quarter pounds rubbish. You want a WW, well go up to WW and fight him. I'm sick of this pansified drivel.
    As I've said, be prepared to get sick more... a nauseating sick...

    Even before the Clottey-Cotto fight, I already pick PAC to defeat Cotto... The only one I pick over PAC is Mosley...

    IMO Clottey soften Cotto some more so I think it will be more easier for PAC to handle Cotto now... Cotto been in so many wars recently... The one with Clottey, Margacheato (ohh that's so brutal), Mosley and Judah while PAC has a streak of easy fights where PAC either KO'ed or dominated his opponents in one-sided fashion...

    Cotto going straight to PAC in November after the Clottey war will only make PAC's life a lot easier....
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    I would not be surprised if PBF will issue a challenge on Cotto, knowing Cotto is now vulnerable.
    Make no mistake though Cotto had poblems against granite chinned pressure punchers in Big Cheat'O and Clottey, PBF isnt a big puncher. Go ahead Floyd.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlik View Post
    I would not be surprised if PBF will issue a challenge on Cotto, knowing Cotto is now vulnerable.
    Make no mistake though Cotto had poblems against granite chinned pressure punchers in Big Cheat'O and Clottey, PBF isnt a big puncher. Go ahead Floyd.
    How the hell is Mayweather going to setup a fight with Cotto when he has a signed contract still pending with Marquez? Even if he managed to escape the fight with Marquez, by the time Mayweather has his injury story all worked out Cotto probably won't even be available. He's going to have to wait for the outcome of Cotto's next fight to face Cotto. The next possible fight for Mayweather would be Mosley at that point since he's just been waiting for a mega partner. It's getting to be a bit long for Mosley to be inactive waiting. When is he going to get hit with a mandatory defense?

    I also see Marquez going after Mayweather ribs now because he comes back when? two months...? I can't see Mayweather doing exercises to toughen up the ribs.... so he's goto protect them. (getting abit ahead of myself here)

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    Ha ha ha BoxRec already has the schedule posted...

    link --> PAC-Cotto November 14 fight

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    If PacMan fights cotto at 147 and "IF" he wins, it will not eliminate the naysayers from pining excuses, alibis and reasons.

    Even if pacquiao will fight at heavyweight and wins, it's still the same, in fact it could even become worse. Those who are now green with envy..will probably become purple....with rage....

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    I told you guys before Cotto ever fought Clottey that Pacquiao would beat him, but people always blame it on my being a biased fan, the fact is that Pacquiao is too fast, hits too hard, and Cotto isn't good enough defensively to deal with his attack. Pacquiao will keep a distance too great for Cotto to cover quick enough, and he will land that cross like he did against Oscar, and he will stay away from that left hook.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by XaduBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I think people are overreacting. Cotto suffered a nasty cut that impaired his vision. Even Amir Khan was able to look good after assaulting Barrera's head with an axe. Cuts can make a difference in a fight and it did here too.

    Cotto would probably bust Pac up even now. It's interesting hearing all this talk about Cotto being past his best because I really don't think he is. I would really like to see Manny walk through half a dozen Cotto body shots unscathed.

    Bring it on, I say. I'm getting sick of the little midget and his big mouthed trainer.
    Word of advice mate... Be prepared to get sick more...
    .
    Haha! I shall copiously vomit all over the place. Might even include a bit of projectile puking in for good measure.

    I'm just cynical. People are saying Cotto is past it and here is Manny saying let's have a Cotto fight. Get out there and fight Mosley, you little poof! I'm not into this looking for weaknesses and then trying to make the match nonsense. I want the best to fight the best. Mosley is a cracking fight and it's a shame they won't fight him.

    I hope Cotto has plenty left and beats him up. And let's not go into this catcweight of 141 and quarter pounds rubbish. You want a WW, well go up to WW and fight him. I'm sick of this pansified drivel.
    I would rather see Manny fight the top ww's at 144 than the junior ww's because he already knocked the #1 jr. ww out and the other junior ww's aren't as captivating as the current ww's.

    Although if they are going to say the fight is at ww, it has to be actually at 147.

    Why would he fight Mosely - a tougher, bigger fighter who lacks a fan base and who already lost to Cotto? With Cotto, he makes more money and takes less risk. It's a no-brainer. Cotto had MSG filled to capacity.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    To be honest this is a poor financial/business move to fight Cotto for Pacman's camp, if this is true. Considering Cotto is a dangerous opponent and won't draw as many as PPV buys, sponsorships, advertisements, endorsements if he were to fight Floyd. If I was in Pacman's camp I would have Manny fight a safe fight to keep him active, he can fight 1 of the top 10 guys at Jr. Welterweight and then wait for Floyd to beat Marquez and then have negotiations and then a showdown. Floyd is being hounded by Uncle Sam for back taxes and knows the biggest money making fight out there is with Pacman.

    A fight with Floyd will not only draw all of the Boxing fans but will also reel in the average sports fan and general public. It even has a chance to surpass the 2.4 million buys of DLH-Mayweather in terms of PPV.

    Pacman is hot right now, but if he were to lose to Cotto, say bye bye to a humongous payday with Floyd, because he will be damaged goods in the eyes of people. And Floyd-Pacman is what many boxing fans, sports fans, and general public wants to see.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    I agree that Pac-PBF fight is what boxing fans are craving for. But its Mayweather's camp that is preventing that from happening. Pacquiao is the hot item right and not PBF. People with common sense can easily tell that how top fighters has been calling out the pacman. The poor PBF ticket sales is the strong evident of that too. So agree with the 60/40 split Floyd and lets make the fight happen!

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    Cotto is wayyyyy over-rated. His record screams cautious and his much vaunted dominance of 147 has never really happened has it?

    He's tailor made for Pac and I don't see how anyone can say otherwise.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post

    Pacman is hot right now, but if he were to lose to Cotto, say bye bye to a humongous payday with Floyd, because he will be damaged goods in the eyes of people. And Floyd-Pacman is what many boxing fans, sports fans, and general public wants to see.
    one loss does not make a boxer "damaged goods" hatton's first loss for example. he eventually fought pac after losing to pbf.

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