Pacquiao Orders Arum To Make Cotto Bout, Nov. 14

[generalbulldog]

i prefer mosley pac or pbf pac too... maybe im just asking too much from pac fighting above his limit. as ive said duran is naturally bigger than pac and duran doesnt rely too much on speed he is slugger unlike pac who relies so much on his speed and workrate. duran is btw may fave fighter b4 pac.

if pac chickened out atleast he is set to fight a bigger guy unlike the other fighter who is set to fight a much smaller fighter and is going to fight a much much smaller calderon! ehehehehehe whats lower than a chicken?

Floyd did go up to fight Oscar. But otherwise he hasn't fought a top WW since about 1874. And I don't include Zab Judah because he is a tea cake. Floys is indeed very annoying these days. Pac would probably have to go down in weight for a Floyd v Pac fight to ever happen!

They are all annoying and make my head want to explode into tiny little fragments. Catch weight this and that with Manny and Floyd with his "I'll never fight a man the same size as me" schtick.

This is a great post. I sure wonder when does Mayweather fight a good welterweight not named Baldomir?A catch weight is a b-itch move to handicapped the other fighter.

Btw if 147 is too much for Manny then fine just fight where he's comfortable at, no one will say anything, but these catch weights for other titles at higher weight classes reminds me of Leonard-Lalonde.

[Rantcatrat]

I think people are overreacting. Cotto suffered a nasty cut that impaired his vision. Even Amir Khan was able to look good after assaulting Barrera's head with an axe. Cuts can make a difference in a fight and it did here too.

Cotto would probably bust Pac up even now. It's interesting hearing all this talk about Cotto being past his best because I really don't think he is. I would really like to see Manny walk through half a dozen Cotto body shots unscathed.

Bring it on, I say. I'm getting sick of the little midget and his big mouthed trainer.

Word of advice mate... Be prepared to get sick more...
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Haha! I shall copiously vomit all over the place. Might even include a bit of projectile puking in for good measure.

I'm just cynical. People are saying Cotto is past it and here is Manny saying let's have a Cotto fight. Get out there and fight Mosley, you little poof! I'm not into this looking for weaknesses and then trying to make the match nonsense. I want the best to fight the best. Mosley is a cracking fight and it's a shame they won't fight him.

I hope Cotto has plenty left and beats him up. And let's not go into this catcweight of 141 and quarter pounds rubbish. You want a WW, well go up to WW and fight him. I'm sick of this pansified drivel.

I would rather see Manny fight the top ww's at 144 than the junior ww's because he already knocked the #1 jr. ww out and the other junior ww's aren't as captivating as the current ww's.

Although if they are going to say the fight is at ww, it has to be actually at 147.

Why would he fight Mosely - a tougher, bigger fighter who lacks a fan base and who already lost to Cotto? With Cotto, he makes more money and takes less risk. It's a no-brainer. Cotto had MSG filled to capacity.

[generalbulldog]

To be honest this is a poor financial/business move to fight Cotto for Pacman's camp, if this is true. Considering Cotto is a dangerous opponent and won't draw as many as PPV buys, sponsorships, advertisements, endorsements if he were to fight Floyd. If I was in Pacman's camp I would have Manny fight a safe fight to keep him active, he can fight 1 of the top 10 guys at Jr. Welterweight and then wait for Floyd to beat Marquez and then have negotiations and then a showdown. Floyd is being hounded by Uncle Sam for back taxes and knows the biggest money making fight out there is with Pacman.

A fight with Floyd will not only draw all of the Boxing fans but will also reel in the average sports fan and general public. It even has a chance to surpass the 2.4 million buys of DLH-Mayweather in terms of PPV.

Pacman is hot right now, but if he were to lose to Cotto, say bye bye to a humongous payday with Floyd, because he will be damaged goods in the eyes of people. And Floyd-Pacman is what many boxing fans, sports fans, and general public wants to see.

[Quinito]

I agree that Pac-PBF fight is what boxing fans are craving for. But its Mayweather's camp that is preventing that from happening. Pacquiao is the hot item right and not PBF. People with common sense can easily tell that how top fighters has been calling out the pacman. The poor PBF ticket sales is the strong evident of that too. So agree with the 60/40 split Floyd and lets make the fight happen!

[HattonTheHammer]

I agree that Pac-PBF fight is what boxing fans are craving for. But its Mayweather's camp that is preventing that from happening. Pacquiao is the hot item right and not PBF. People with common sense can easily tell that how top fighters has been calling out the pacman. The poor PBF ticket sales is the strong evident of that too. So agree with the 60/40 split Floyd and lets make the fight happen!

on saturdays performance id have to believe cotto is going to struggle desperately with someone like pacquiao/marquez and should probably just stick to trying to get a rematch with margarito.

Cotto on his day can be awesome but he`s last 3 outings have been decidingly dodgy and there are rightfully big question marks over whether cotto still has it in him anymore!!!

[Steelie]

Cotto is wayyyyy over-rated. His record screams cautious and his much vaunted dominance of 147 has never really happened has it?

He's tailor made for Pac and I don't see how anyone can say otherwise.

[HattonTheHammer]

Cotto is wayyyyy over-rated. His record screams cautious and his much vaunted dominance of 147 has never really happened has it?

He's tailor made for Pac and I don't see how anyone can say otherwise.

mosley, judah, clottey, torres suggests a very good fighter with a good CV.

Anyone that beats shane mosley has got to be world class!!

[mnmc10]

Pacman is hot right now, but if he were to lose to Cotto, say bye bye to a humongous payday with Floyd, because he will be damaged goods in the eyes of people. And Floyd-Pacman is what many boxing fans, sports fans, and general public wants to see.

one loss does not make a boxer "damaged goods" hatton's first loss for example. he eventually fought pac after losing to pbf.

[generalbulldog]

I don't know who the hell is advising Pacman but a fight with Cotto is a poor business decision for reasons I've stated in the other posts. And even though Pacman exhibits the signs of a humble champion he's also in it for the money. Everyone remembers that the Hatton fight was almost off until it was 52-48 in Pacmans favor?

Let's say theoretically that both sides have agreed on the 50-50 split for Floyd-Pacman, both of the purses should and probably will be in the 20 million dollar range with a gross percentage of PPV buys for both fighters not to mention that the fight has the possiblity of exceeding the 2.4 million and then you add in sponsorships, advertisements, endorsements, etc. And this has the potential of being the biggest money making fight of all time.

#1 pound for pound versus the former number 1 pound for pound but undefeated. The fight appeals to boxing fans, regular sports fans, and the general public. The financial and boxing rewards is far greater in the Floyd fight then the Cotto fight. So whoever is advising Manny to fight Cotto right now is making a poor business decision.

Just my 2 cents looking at it from a view as a business man.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

As sick as i am of discussing catchweights.. I think this is a great fight.

Id be VERY happy if this fight was made.

[Spicoli]

This pains me to say but I think Manny beats Cotto.He does not have the over all size of a Margarito or Clottey but accuracy and speed in droves.Cotto was showing some of that stationary-squat posture....began punching wider as the rounds went on.... a quick in and out guy could take advantage off.

[fan johnny]

To be honest this is a poor financial/business move to fight Cotto for Pacman's camp, if this is true. Considering Cotto is a dangerous opponent and won't draw as many as PPV buys, sponsorships, advertisements, endorsements if he were to fight Floyd. If I was in Pacman's camp I would have Manny fight a safe fight to keep him active, he can fight 1 of the top 10 guys at Jr. Welterweight and then wait for Floyd to beat Marquez and then have negotiations and then a showdown. Floyd is being hounded by Uncle Sam for back taxes and knows the biggest money making fight out there is with Pacman.

A fight with Floyd will not only draw all of the Boxing fans but will also reel in the average sports fan and general public. It even has a chance to surpass the 2.4 million buys of DLH-Mayweather in terms of PPV.

Pacman is hot right now, but if he were to lose to Cotto, say bye bye to a humongous payday with Floyd, because he will be damaged goods in the eyes of people. And Floyd-Pacman is what many boxing fans, sports fans, and general public wants to see.

Your time is totally off!

Pacquiao couldn't possibly face Floyd in 2009. If doesn't matter if there was a guaranteed 3 Million PPV buys. Besides it's not Pacquio's people who made the mistake it's Floyd's people.

[Rantcatrat]

I don't know who the hell is advising Pacman but a fight with Cotto is a poor business decision for reasons I've stated in the other posts. And even though Pacman exhibits the signs of a humble champion he's also in it for the money. Everyone remembers that the Hatton fight was almost off until it was 52-48 in Pacmans favor?

Let's say theoretically that both sides have agreed on the 50-50 split for Floyd-Pacman, both of the purses should and probably will be in the 20 million dollar range with a gross percentage of PPV buys for both fighters not to mention that the fight has the possiblity of exceeding the 2.4 million and then you add in sponsorships, advertisements, endorsements, etc. And this has the potential of being the biggest money making fight of all time.

#1 pound for pound versus the former number 1 pound for pound but undefeated. The fight appeals to boxing fans, regular sports fans, and the general public. The financial and boxing rewards is far greater in the Floyd fight then the Cotto fight. So whoever is advising Manny to fight Cotto right now is making a poor business decision.

Just my 2 cents looking at it from a view as a business man.

You are correct if your point is that a PBF v. Pac fight is a bigger fight in respect to legacy and money than a Cotto v. Pac fight. Clearly, however, two fights are bigger than one. Considering Cotto's recent performances, the risk is worth taking. Would the Mosely risk be worth taking if can have PBF in the winter? No. In addition, PBF was injured in his training camp and his fight with Marquez has been postponed. Pac shouldn't wait too much longer to get in the ring.

Financially, Cotto is probably the biggest Puerto Rican fighter at the moment and Puerto Ricans are big boxing fans. The fight may not be on the PBF v. Pac level, but it is big.

A win over Cotto is a big win for Pac. Cotto has been dominant at ww for the past few years; he has beat Mosely, Judah, Torres, Paulie etc. The PBF v. Cotto fight was the fight fans were clamoring for before PBF's retirement, which never happened. It would be a big deal if Pac fought Cotto first and beat him.

[belakbox]

I give Pac props for taking big fights. I think this one is a bad choice though and that he should go for the big money fight in Mayweather.

Cotto doesn't look prime anymore but I maintain that he has 3 elite performances left in him. I think Cotto negates Pacs speed with his power jab, timing and body work.

Pac doesn't have the pressure style that seems to be the only style that can defeat or give Cotto issues.

If Cotto stays focused and doesn't get reckless like he did with Torres then he should be able to methodically break down and stop or KO the smaller Paquiao.

[KananKrus]

A Pac vs Cotto boxing match will put a tremenduous number of boxing fans anticipating this bout in a frenzy. What an absolutely promising classic match-up in the making!

Only thing is, this might fall short of a classic if and when a catchweight materialized. Might likewise fall short of... if it ends in an abortive fashion, say by cuts accidental or otherwise (As Cotto have bled a bit excessively the last few bouts). Too, it would not, if one gets knocked out much too early in the fight. This could very well be what would transpire, owing to both men, Paquiao and Cotto, equally having considerable lights-out power on both fists. (would very well be discredited as a mistake, a mismatch... exhibit Pac vs Hatton).

Only scenario that personally I will regret if it ever so happens, is if and when Pacquiao wins this duel in the fashion much like that of his last three fights (hopefully without the catchweight, or an acceptable one if so) when people will give excuses so long as the least props, a bare minimum shall be given the victor.

A tease is there now... Cotto was softened, shot after the the bricks episode, and etc...

This reaction, from supposedly very knowledgeable boxing people, is one response, almost unilateral from this pages, that is very difficult to comprehend without ascertaining a personality "bias" as its llikely origin. And if there is this bias, this hate going on, it spoils the sweetness of the victory.

You can't even satisfactorily celebrate, for it is inconspicuously disallowed when sour grapes is a plenty, and it is the order of the day!

I have read a few people that have assuredly will give props, provided that there is no catchweight, no weight drain edge, thanks! Fair and logical, but most importantly, decency on display.

However there will be the usual sort, personal in nature, venomous in form, biased in origination, and will only accord a superficial recognition to the PacMan. Baffling! to say the least, the guy is a recepient of FOTY from Boxing Writers Association of America! Twice!

Hope I am wrong with all this, and this apprehension is all unfounded.

And of course, first and foremost, hope that Pac wins, otherwise this is but a bunch of baloney.... a ranting nonesense! Seriously... is it?