Calzaghe WILL fight again for £10/$16 million

[Fenster]

Hopkins is never a guy who does that well with judges, and one of the key reasons that he was going to struggle on the judges cards that night was the stupid comment about never losing to a white boy. So the whole 'Calzaghe is British & still got a decision' means nothing, because if you want to go along that route you could argue that the race issue equally played a role.

So the judges favoured Calzaghe because he's white?

[JazMerkin]

Hopkins is never a guy who does that well with judges, and one of the key reasons that he was going to struggle on the judges cards that night was the stupid comment about never losing to a white boy. So the whole 'Calzaghe is British & still got a decision' means nothing, because if you want to go along that route you could argue that the race issue equally played a role.

So the judges favoured Calzaghe because he's white?

No, that's not at all what I said, they MAY have favoured him because of the dickhead comment Hopkins made. It's as good an argument as 'Calzaghe's British so it was all against him', because Calzaghe had enough of Warren's money behind him to ensure he wasn't going to get shafted. In fact, I'd like to hear of a single Brit other than Lewis against Holyfield who has been screwed by the judges against a US fighter in America in recent years, maybe I'm missing someone

[Fenster]

Hopkins is never a guy who does that well with judges, and one of the key reasons that he was going to struggle on the judges cards that night was the stupid comment about never losing to a white boy. So the whole 'Calzaghe is British & still got a decision' means nothing, because if you want to go along that route you could argue that the race issue equally played a role.

So the judges favoured Calzaghe because he's white?

No, that's not at all what I said, they MAY have favoured him because of the dickhead comment Hopkins made. It's as good an argument as 'Calzaghe's British so it was all against him', because Calzaghe had enough of Warren's money behind him to ensure he wasn't going to get shafted. In fact, I'd like to hear of a single Brit other than Lewis against Holyfield who has been screwed by the judges against a US fighter in America in recent years, maybe I'm missing someone

Right.. but thats like saying Adalaide Byrd (the black American judge) MAY have favoured Hopkins the black American.. considering the other two judges and the MAJORITY of people that watched the fight scored it for Calzaghe.

Warren has more clout than Golden Boy?

[JazMerkin]

So the judges favoured Calzaghe because he's white?

No, that's not at all what I said, they MAY have favoured him because of the dickhead comment Hopkins made. It's as good an argument as 'Calzaghe's British so it was all against him', because Calzaghe had enough of Warren's money behind him to ensure he wasn't going to get shafted. In fact, I'd like to hear of a single Brit other than Lewis against Holyfield who has been screwed by the judges against a US fighter in America in recent years, maybe I'm missing someone

Right.. but thats like saying Adalaide Byrd (the black American judge) MAY have favoured Hopkins the black American.. considering the other two judges and the MAJORITY of people that watched the fight scored it for Calzaghe.

Warren has more clout than Golden Boy?

Jesus, I DIDN'T say they favoured Joe because he & they are white, I said it's because of the comment that Hopkins made. Let's put it this way if Alan Minter said what he did about Hagler today, who would you put your money on if it went to the cards regardless of the colour of the judges?

And no I didn't say Warren has more clout than GBP, but he has enough to ensure his fighter probably won't get screwed over.

[Fenster]

No, that's not at all what I said, they MAY have favoured him because of the dickhead comment Hopkins made. It's as good an argument as 'Calzaghe's British so it was all against him', because Calzaghe had enough of Warren's money behind him to ensure he wasn't going to get shafted. In fact, I'd like to hear of a single Brit other than Lewis against Holyfield who has been screwed by the judges against a US fighter in America in recent years, maybe I'm missing someone

Right.. but thats like saying Adalaide Byrd (the black American judge) MAY have favoured Hopkins the black American.. considering the other two judges and the MAJORITY of people that watched the fight scored it for Calzaghe.

Warren has more clout than Golden Boy?

Jesus, I DIDN'T say they favoured Joe because he & they are white, I said it's because of the comment that Hopkins made. Let's put it this way if Alan Minter said what he did about Hagler today, who would you put your money on if it went to the cards regardless of the colour of the judges?

And no I didn't say Warren has more clout than GBP, but he has enough to ensure his fighter probably won't get screwed over.

The argument that "Calzaghe is British and still got the decision" is simply refering to a fighter in the other guys backyard. Whether it be America, Britain, Germany or wherever, it's a given the HOME fighter will be favoured. (i'm sure Britkid will also give you a history of robberies )

I don't see how that compares with a fighter being favoured because of skin colour over racial remarks. Maybe if they got the Ku klux clan to judge it you'd have a point.

Calzaghe won a close fight fair and square. Simple as.

[JazMerkin]

Right.. but thats like saying Adalaide Byrd (the black American judge) MAY have favoured Hopkins the black American.. considering the other two judges and the MAJORITY of people that watched the fight scored it for Calzaghe.

Warren has more clout than Golden Boy?

Jesus, I DIDN'T say they favoured Joe because he & they are white, I said it's because of the comment that Hopkins made. Let's put it this way if Alan Minter said what he did about Hagler today, who would you put your money on if it went to the cards regardless of the colour of the judges?

And no I didn't say Warren has more clout than GBP, but he has enough to ensure his fighter probably won't get screwed over.

The argument that "Calzaghe is British and still got the decision" is simply refering to a fighter in the other guys backyard. Whether it be America, Britain, Germany or wherever, it's a given the HOME fighter will be favoured. (i'm sure Britkid will also give you a history of robberies )

I don't see how that compares with a fighter being favoured because of skin colour over racial remarks. Maybe if they got the Ku klux clan to judge it you'd have a point.

Calzaghe won a close fight fair and square. Simple as.

Ok, how much more simply can I write this?! The judges did not favour Calzaghe because he's white, IMO they did not look favourably on Hopkins because of his dumb comments, not because he's black, but because of WHAT HE SAID. The same would of happened nowadays if Minter fought Hagler, because people don't stand for that sh*t any more.

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned no Brit fighter in the past 2 decades has been robbed in the US bar Lewis. Both Calzaghe & Hatton only did well with judges, in Hatton's case getting a favourable decision over a US fighter, Naz was never robbed whilst over there. The fact is as much as I hate to say it the Americans are a bit better for not pulling country partial decisions than we are, it is more a case of a fighter who has the strongest support over there being the one most likely to do well on the judges card. If Britkid can name me some in recent years fine, but until then I won't buy this 'the British fighter has to work extra hard to get a decision', it's not like Hopkins is a 'home' fighter in Vegas in the way ODLH or PBF are.

[Quinito]

Hopkins defeated Calzaghe. Sorry but I am more of a 'quality' guy than a 'quantity' when I score a fight.

[ICB]

Hopkins defeated Calzaghe. Sorry but I am more of a 'quality' guy than a 'quantity' when I score a fight.

I echo this comment.

[Fenster]

Hopkins defeated Calzaghe. Sorry but I am more of a 'quality' guy than a 'quantity' when I score a fight.

I echo this comment.

And you were both wrong.

[ICB]

Hopkins defeated Calzaghe. Sorry but I am more of a 'quality' guy than a 'quantity' when I score a fight.

I echo this comment.

And you were both wrong.

Just like your wrong thinking JMM beat Manny Pacquiao ? that was technically a loss right ? i couldn't think of anyother examples by the way.

[Fenster]

I echo this comment.

And you were both wrong.

Just like your wrong thinking JMM beat Manny Pacquiao ? that was technically a loss right ? i couldn't think of anyother examples by the way.

Yes officially Pacster won.

The difference is - the MAJORITY think Marquez beat Pacster, like the HUGE MAJORITY think Calzaghe beat Hopkins.

So I'm right in both cases. Fact.