Quote Originally Posted by athlete.not.fighter
so are you saying that all you need to to have to be a great ground and pound guy is a greco roman wrestling and strength? so you think that bjj and the ground and pound strategy have no relation.
as for winning from the bottom if we're talking about being on the bottom side of a ground and pound -- meaning from the bottom side of mount or side control, i know of no submissions from those positions. so i went to bjj.org because they have a list of submissions and they have none either.
what is it that you do by the way
No I'm not saying to be a good GNP only requires wrestling exp and strength. My point was that alot of the classic GNP guys have top notch wrestling backgrounds. This is b/c there wrestling experience helps with the takedowns and takedown defense and controling their opponents body. My experience is that grecoroman and freestyle wrestlers aren't taught submissions that deal with choking or joint manipulation. I agree that GNP and BJJ are related but have some very distinct differences. My BJJ training has taught me alot about how to improve my body position, how to maintain my dominate position and how to submit my opponent from many positions. Namely how to effectively grapple with my opponent in my guard. I'm sure some of the guys on this forum with more BJJ exp than I can talk about BJJ takedowns but my instructor uses his wrestling and judo exp to teach us takedowns. The long and short of it is a good wrestling background is going to aid in an effective GNP game but one must be somewhat trained in BJJ if only to know how to not get submitted whilst in the guard.