Clottey: "Margarito wasn't using loaded gloves on me"

[Mr140]

Well Cotto i think gassed more then anything in the last rounds and as been prone to cut i would not say it is out of the question. And not saying Margarito would beat Cotto again i just said Margarito has a good chance if he can take the punishment he did the first time is all i ment.

[Pugilistic]

I personally don't think Margarito used Plaster wraps before the fight with Mosley.

I wouldn't count it out though.

[Snakey]

I always thought of margarito as a guy who hurt you with more punches, not just one. So i dont know, youd think if he had loaded gloves then every punch would be a one punch ko waiting to happen.

[Taeth]

I always thought of margarito as a guy who hurt you with more punches, not just one. So i dont know, youd think if he had loaded gloves then every punch would be a one punch ko waiting to happen.

Not really, it would increase the damage, but not substantially, at least not in terms of blunt force, it would do more physical damage in terms of busting a guy up though. It would feel much harder, but it wouldn't be much landing harder, thus the brain wouldn't move a whole lot more, and a one punch ko would still be unlikely.

[Snakey]

I always thought of margarito as a guy who hurt you with more punches, not just one. So i dont know, youd think if he had loaded gloves then every punch would be a one punch ko waiting to happen.

Not really, it would increase the damage, but not substantially, at least not in terms of blunt force, it would do more physical damage in terms of busting a guy up though. It would feel much harder, but it wouldn't be much landing harder, thus the brain wouldn't move a whole lot more, and a one punch ko would still be unlikely.

I dont know about that mate, if guy hits you with brass knuckles on his fist, its going to hit at the same force as a normal punch but if hit on the chin....way more of a chance of a ko because there is less give. Knuckles and hands give in a bit when punching but something more solid wouldnt and would make a greater force

[Taeth]

I always thought of margarito as a guy who hurt you with more punches, not just one. So i dont know, youd think if he had loaded gloves then every punch would be a one punch ko waiting to happen.

Not really, it would increase the damage, but not substantially, at least not in terms of blunt force, it would do more physical damage in terms of busting a guy up though. It would feel much harder, but it wouldn't be much landing harder, thus the brain wouldn't move a whole lot more, and a one punch ko would still be unlikely.

I dont know about that mate, if guy hits you with brass knuckles on his fist, its going to hit at the same force as a normal punch but if hit on the chin....way more of a chance of a ko because there is less give. Knuckles and hands give in a bit when punching but something more solid wouldnt and would make a greater force

Its actually different because most brass knucles create a structure inside the hand as well, if you are holding onto something when you hit, your hand is much harder and much more solid than having something like metal on the outside of your hand, most of the give is in the hand being able to close more or clench tighter because of the impact. Generally though loaded gloves have led more to broken jaws, destroyed eye sockets than one punch knock outs. How hard something is changes to a degree how likely the thing is of knocking somebody out, but still the general rules of physicas such as speed and force apply the momentum that makes the head move around.

[HattonTheHammer]

I personally don't think Margarito used Plaster wraps before the fight with Mosley.

I wouldn't count it out though.

Ive said all along there should be no middle ground in this debate

if there is no conclusive evidence that antonio had indeed used some kind of substance in his wraps then he should still be fighting now.

If however there is sufficent enough belief that he had indeed been endangering peoples lives by doing this then he should never be allowed in a boxing ring whether it be professional or any other variety!

[ICB]

I personally don't think Margarito used Plaster wraps before the fight with Mosley.

I wouldn't count it out though.

You have got to be kidding me, did you see Sebastian Lujan's ear ? and your telling me thats normal ?

[Mr140]

Ok then ice explain to me why Clotty, Williams nothing ever happen really. I mean there are alot of rights were it does not seem like Margarito was destroying his oppents so i dont see how you could say used it everytime. Because the results are so different everytime he fights so i dont know. I mean Cotto was prone to cut and gass in late rounds and Cintron was always kinda week mental but who knows thats the whole point.

[ICB]

Ok then ice explain to me why Clotty, Williams nothing ever happen really. I mean there are alot of rights were it does not seem like Margarito was destroying his oppents so i dont see how you could say used it everytime. Because the results are so different everytime he fights so i dont know. I mean Cotto was prone to cut and gass in late rounds and Cintron was always kinda week mental but who knows thats the whole point.

I never said he used it all the time, i was saying its pretty gullible to think he only used it for the Shane Mosley fight. And the Sebastian Lujan fight is a perfect example, i've never seen anything like that in my life.

[SigmaMu]

Why did this thread get moved to the Manny Pacquiao section? What does this have to do with Manny?

[Saddo]

Why did this thread get moved to the Manny Pacquiao section? What does this have to do with Manny?

it was posted by Xaduboxer so i moved it without looking... the agenda was pac but it never got picked up on so my mistake you can have it back

[SigmaMu]

Ok then ice explain to me why Clotty, Williams nothing ever happen really. I mean there are alot of rights were it does not seem like Margarito was destroying his oppents so i dont see how you could say used it everytime. Because the results are so different everytime he fights so i dont know. I mean Cotto was prone to cut and gass in late rounds and Cintron was always kinda week mental but who knows thats the whole point.

I never said he used it all the time, i was saying its pretty gullible to think he only used it for the Shane Mosley fight. And the Sebastian Lujan fight is a perfect example, i've never seen anything like that in my life.

The fact that these things had blood on them, proves that he has used them in the past, to what extent? We wont ever know that for sure.

[Kel]

I personally don't think Margarito used Plaster wraps before the fight with Mosley.

I wouldn't count it out though.

You have got to be kidding me, did you see Sebastian Lujan's ear ? and your telling me thats normal ?

Yeah he almost literally boxed his ears off. Terrible

[Kel]

Ear you go, found another.