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I meant Floyd SD Pacster. Fact.

Pacster definitely KO's Cotto. You see Cotto the weekend? He will look like he's fighting in treacle compared to Pacster. Pacster will beat him to a pulp inside 6. Fact.
I know your being sarcastic but im not sure if you still think Manny Pacquiao, will actually beat Miguel Cotto so i'll reply anyway.

Joshua Clottey stood straight in front of Miguel Cotto, and is way bigger than Manny Pacquiao.

Manny Pacquiao would be on the move constantly, he wouldn't stand his ground vs Miguel Cotto. He would rely on his footwork and speed.

Now i think Manny Pacquiao is a really good fighter, but i think he's being a bit overrated here.

Ricky Hatton was on the slide yes it was an impressive victory, and it wouldn't of mattered what Ricky Hatton turned up.

But still Ricky Hatton hasn't been the same since the Kostya Tszyu fight, ODLH was weight drained and rubbish. He hadn't fought at Welterweight in god knows how many years. And David Diaz is just mediocre.

I don't see how any of these fights prove that Manny Pacquiao, stands any chance against Floyd Mayweather Jr or Miguel Cotto. Or that Manny Pacquiao stands a chance against any top Welterweight, he hasn't fought a live-fighter at Welterweight yet.

Floyd Mayweather Jr still totally outboxes Manny Pacquiao, by atleast 8 rounds to 4. Anything JMM can do Floyd Mayweather Jr will do better. And Miguel Cotto will be too physical and too strong, and his body shots will be the key especially the way Manny Pacquiao leaves his body exposed, and he'll stop Manny Pacquiao late on.
JMM style suits him way better againt southpaws then Mayweather's, we've seen Mayweather not look great against Zab Judah and Demarcus Corley.

Also I think you are way over estimating Cotto, he's the guy who went life and death with Ricardo Torres, almost was ko'ed by Demarcus Corley, and he was stunned several times against Zab Judah. Manny will beat Cotto quite badly MARK my words. I don't even see it being super competitive, no way can Cotto close the gap quick enough, you have to be close to land a solid left hook if you are incapable of leaping in(which COtto is), and Manny will be moving away from that left hook all night, he won't allow the slow footed Cotto to corner him, and he will land at will against Cotto because Cotto has an average defense in overall(sometimes he does amazing things defensively, but generally he is easy to hit), he can be hurt (say what you want but Manny hurts people that people wouldn't expect him to, and Cotto definitely isn't the guy with the toughest chin Manny has ever faced).

ALl I've seen from you ICB are excuses of why Manny doesn't deserve credit for beating Hatton or Oscar De La Hoya, but Oscar looked fine against Forbes, sure he was focused on defense, but his offensive looked good at 150, that is three pounds above where he fought Manny, and sure you can make a legitimate excuse that Oscar was weight drained, but great fighters still are tough to beat even if they are facing adversity, and Manny dominated him. Not only that but Manny destroyed Hatton in 2 rounds, and you can't say Hatton was way past his prime because thats not true, he looked as good against Paulie as he did against anyone near his "prime".
Miguel Cotto was weight drained against Torres, Corley, that was at 140. And why are you giving Miguel Cotto so much flack for having a little trouble against Zab Judah ?

Floyd Mayweather Jr struggled just as much against Zab Judah in the first few rounds, and Floyd Mayweather Jr was actually dropped.

Miguel Cotto only lost a few rounds and was only stunned a few times for a split second, it was still a one sided whooping so i don't see your point.

I gave him credit for beating Ricky Hatton, Ricky Hatton was still good but he was still on the slide. He hasn't been at his best since Kostya Tszyu.

You can't judge him in the Paul Malignaggi fight, because Paul Malignaggi just kept clinching and didn't even fight after the 2nd round, when he felt the power of Ricky Hatton.

And again i don't see how beating Ricky Hatton, makes his chances any greater against Miguel Cotto or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Come on ODLH wasn't good in the Steve Forbes fight, everyone expected ODLH to blow away Steve Forbes. ODLH was marked up and lost rounds which he shouldn't have. If ODLH was in his prime he would of blown away Steve Forbes.

ODLH was 145 pounds against Manny Pacquiao not 147 pounds, secondly he hardly rehydrated any weight which means he was weight-drained.

You don't have to make any excuse its a fact he was weight-drained. He hasn't been that low in weight since 1997.