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Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
But think age and the way Joel was savaged by JMM. The first guy who willl be Valero in my opinion will be someone who comes in fast between his wide shots and open chin. Kind of like what Juan Manuel Lopez did to Ponce de Leon. I just don't see JC being able to do that......but now you all have me wondering.
I can see a Soto turning the tables on Valero,long fast starter as of late and enough power to ruin a vacation.

Remember ol vet Penalosa endured a Ponce onslaught and had him clueless and flat hitable in the late rounds also.Cards lied in that one chief .Two ways to skin a kat.[/quote

Ponce and Valeo are friends and train together in LA where Valero is a gym legend due to his incredible non-stop training techniques. However, they both have the same weakeness; namley, coming in with wide looping shots that a skilled and fast puncher could get between. de Leon got iced that way by JML--and it could happen to Valero--but not by a aging JC.

This will be an early and clean starch job (pardon the near pun).