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    Default Re: Coach Freddie Agress at 145lbs.

    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
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    Well, its obvious Roach made himself look silly with that statement that was an attempt to look bold. He said he doesn't care if Cotto weighs 200 pounds. Yeah, I guess the catchweight thing is Cotto's request. Okay, does he remember he said he would not let Pac fight any welterweight at 147 except the smallest welterweight and that is PBF. Also, Roach only agreed to 145 because he is now demanding a 70-30 purse and the fight to be scheduled before October. Using baseball as an excuse. Cotto has one helluva cut to heal and there is no reaonable way that skin will be fully healed by October. Pac is the best fighter and Roach is the best trainer right now but I'm tired of all his shenanigans trying to pull advantages and unfair moves. It sounds like Pac vs. Cotto. Wow, what a matchup! Until you factor in the catchweight and not allowing that vicious cut to heal properly. Anybody who has ever boxed for a significant time can clearly understand the disadvantages. Just like DLH and PBF, Pac and Roach are now picking and choosing opponents and conditions instead of just fighting the best out there as is. These guys are more business than boxing. This is what happens in boxing when your wallet outgrows your heart. If you want to defeat Cotto just to defeat him as a fighter thats fine. But if you want to be called welterweight champ then you need to beat a welterweight champ at welterweight. Even the bias Pac fan can not reasonably argue against that simple logic. If Pac and Roach think the welterweights are too big, hence the catchweight, then go after Judah, PBF, Campbell, Bradley, Valero, or JMM. Its obvious he wants none of Mosley. Mosley said he would take their catchweight and purse split yet they'd rather try to lure Cotto. Boxing is hurting itself with this kind of mess.
    Now I was upset when I thought this catchweight fight would be for the WW titles, but its not. And I'm far from being a Pac fan. But no one was bitching about the Hopkins-Pavlik catchweight fight without any titles on the line right? It ain't for any titles, so stop your crying. Cotto came in at 146 for Clottey, he can make it 145.

    Again did you bitch at other catchweight fights that wasn't for titles?
    You must be reading too fast. I said if it is just for a fight then fine but if this is for the title then its bulls#@! Read slower next time. And many people are saying this would be Pac's 7th weight class title. Did you read the article when Roach said he doesn't care if Cotto is at 200lbs. but he wants a catchweight. The difference between this fight and every other catchweight is that he is not doing to meet up he is doing it to drain fighters who barely make their weight class. That is why Roach said he would not let Pac fight any welterweight at 147 except PBF. To all the people who choose not to accept the truth against their fanfair, if the 2 or 3 pounds is no factor then why is Pac's team the adamant ones? Why is 147 good for DLH and PBF but not Mosley or Cotto? Answer these questions factual without getting offended.
    Very well said.

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    Default Re: Coach Freddie Agress at 145lbs.

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    Now I was upset when I thought this catchweight fight would be for the WW titles, but its not. And I'm far from being a Pac fan. But no one was bitching about the Hopkins-Pavlik catchweight fight without any titles on the line right? It ain't for any titles, so stop your crying. Cotto came in at 146 for Clottey, he can make it 145.

    Again did you bitch at other catchweight fights that wasn't for titles?
    You must be reading too fast. I said if it is just for a fight then fine but if this is for the title then its bulls#@! Read slower next time. And many people are saying this would be Pac's 7th weight class title. Did you read the article when Roach said he doesn't care if Cotto is at 200lbs. but he wants a catchweight. The difference between this fight and every other catchweight is that he is not doing to meet up he is doing it to drain fighters who barely make their weight class. That is why Roach said he would not let Pac fight any welterweight at 147 except PBF. To all the people who choose not to accept the truth against their fanfair, if the 2 or 3 pounds is no factor then why is Pac's team the adamant ones? Why is 147 good for DLH and PBF but not Mosley or Cotto? Answer these questions factual without getting offended.
    Very well said.
    As I see it, Roach is just throwing his weight around. I believe Cotto sees himself as the challenger ( he said it would be the greatest challenge of his career) in the same way Hatton saw himself as the challenger to the P4p throne.

    Now, it may not be unfair that he is doing this seeing that Roach/Paquiao have earned the right to call the shots. If fighters want to fight Pac they have to fight him on his terms. That's why their the adamant ones.

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