Victor Ortiz is a quiter

[JT Rock]

If he had enough he had enough bottom line its his life and his choice.

Not everyone has what it takes to be an Elite champion, pure skill is not enough it takes a very special motor inside to push pass pass adversity and overcome. Boxers with half his natural ability have been champs because the have the heart and mental toughness. Last night Victor got dragged out to the deep dark water and drowned.

Boxing is a hurt game your going to get hit and feel pain thats the point of it.

It is fair to question his heart because thats the measuring stick of his marketability and potential for greatness.

[SweetPea]

It's 100% fair to question Ortiz's heart after what happened last night. He laughed his way thru the entire postfight interview and didn't seem to grasp at all that he had just quit in a big fight that could have a lasting effect on his career.

He might not have the stomach to be a top fighter.

He pretty much said this sport isn't for me last night, I am ok with that. He got beat up he didn't like. If the kid is out I am ok with that and so should everyone else

If he wants out, that's fine.... it's his life.

But since he's been discussed as a top prospect and future champion, it's 100% OK to question his heart and toughness and talk about how his actions last night might indicate that he won't become the top guy people were predicting him to be.

[boozeboxer]

It's 100% fair to question Ortiz's heart after what happened last night. He laughed his way thru the entire postfight interview and didn't seem to grasp at all that he had just quit in a big fight that could have a lasting effect on his career.

He might not have the stomach to be a top fighter.

He pretty much said this sport isn't for me last night, I am ok with that. He got beat up he didn't like. If the kid is out I am ok with that and so should everyone else

If he wants out, that's fine.... it's his life.

But since he's been discussed as a top prospect and future champion, it's 100% OK to question his heart and toughness and talk about how his actions last night might indicate that he won't become the top guy people were predicting him to be.

Are you telling me that part of top boxing is getting hit back?? Like taking hard punches?

[ElTerribleMorales]

why hate on the guy, I hate this shit fans deeming a guy a quiter or some such nonsense. It's boxing, they get hurt, he got taged hard numerous times, and like he said he'd like to be able to speak in old age. I respect guys whom aren't to proud to throw in the towel, nothing wrong with that. I like boxing but hate to see anyone ever hurt in the sport, and guys usually get hurt cause they're to proud to quit or cause the ref or corner aren't throwing in the towel. Good fight, nothing wrong with ortiz's decision those were some bombs he took

9 times out of 10 those are the bandwagon fans, and seriously that's something that irks me, i'm not a huge fan of any fighter in specific right now, but i'm a fan of many, let me correct that, i'm not an unbiased fan of ANY fighter, hate all this turning on the guy and kicking him when they're down, but quickly get on the bandwagon when they have a huge win in the future, that kind of shit is utter nonsense

[Lance Uppercut]

Her pretty much said he quit in his interview with max kellerman. (which he did not have to do, since it was the doctor that stopped the fight).

But it was funny when his corner was pretty much like: "just say anything, or I am going to stop this fight; just respond in any way."

Oritz did not say a word, and called his corner's bluff.

[Gandalf]

What happened to this great prospect that Pacdbest2 himself had predicted great things for?

[Gandalf]

What happened to this great prospect that Pacdbest2 himself had predicted great things for?

That was a bit mean, but I just found it funny.

Ortiz had always looked decent but that was all. He was being built up and tonight got found out. I was surprised he quit as easily as that. The Vargas comparison was a good one. Too much, too soon and without a way to cope.

[Pavlik]

why hate on the guy, I hate this shit fans deeming a guy a quiter or some such nonsense. It's boxing, they get hurt, he got taged hard numerous times, and like he said he'd like to be able to speak in old age. I respect guys whom aren't to proud to throw in the towel, nothing wrong with that. I like boxing but hate to see anyone ever hurt in the sport, and guys usually get hurt cause they're to proud to quit or cause the ref or corner aren't throwing in the towel. Good fight, nothing wrong with ortiz's decision those were some bombs he took

9 times out of 10 those are the bandwagon fans, and seriously that's something that irks me, i'm not a huge fan of any fighter in specific right now, but i'm a fan of many, let me correct that, i'm not an unbiased fan of ANY fighter, hate all this turning on the guy and kicking him when they're down, but quickly get on the bandwagon when they have a huge win in the future, that kind of shit is utter nonsense

What's the main reason you are a fan of Erik Morales?

[ElTerribleMorales]

why hate on the guy, I hate this shit fans deeming a guy a quiter or some such nonsense. It's boxing, they get hurt, he got taged hard numerous times, and like he said he'd like to be able to speak in old age. I respect guys whom aren't to proud to throw in the towel, nothing wrong with that. I like boxing but hate to see anyone ever hurt in the sport, and guys usually get hurt cause they're to proud to quit or cause the ref or corner aren't throwing in the towel. Good fight, nothing wrong with ortiz's decision those were some bombs he took

9 times out of 10 those are the bandwagon fans, and seriously that's something that irks me, i'm not a huge fan of any fighter in specific right now, but i'm a fan of many, let me correct that, i'm not an unbiased fan of ANY fighter, hate all this turning on the guy and kicking him when they're down, but quickly get on the bandwagon when they have a huge win in the future, that kind of shit is utter nonsense

What's the main reason you are a fan of Erik Morales?

his willingness to take on the best and never turn away from any challenge, but even he knew when it was too much (PAC III) and there is no shame in it, i mean if the fight was pretty even and you just flat out quit, then ok no prob, but if you're pretty much gettin your ass handed to you (and Ortiz was getting mauled by the right hands, and don't think things were gonna get any better for him), all i know is i'd rather see him go out the way he did and fight another day than to have another Oscar Diaz

[armin]

vic is young, I remember a couple years back jt said something similar after a fight, conteplating retirement or something...and everyone was like wtf cause he wasn't even thirty yet...vic showed a good amount of heart, got of the canvas...seriously nothing wrong with callin it quits when he did. Also yes he may have had enormous hardships in his personal life, that doesn't have to transfer to the ring...I've had a pretty tough life but that don't mean I wouldn't stay down after the first knockdown...it's a different kind of heart and fortitude just having one doesn't also mean you have the other. altho I'd say victor has both. Also the people that call him a quioter and since the comparison already came up with vargas...would you have rather vic made it to the 12th round only to take more punishment and pretty much never be the same fighter again and ruin what ever potential he has...

[:::PSL:::]

A bit unfair Ortiz thread here. He put out a very entertaining fight, and that's all matters to me.

Sure it's a road bump for him. But I still see his bright future.

[belakbox]

why hate on the guy, I hate this shit fans deeming a guy a quiter or some such nonsense. It's boxing, they get hurt, he got taged hard numerous times, and like he said he'd like to be able to speak in old age. I respect guys whom aren't to proud to throw in the towel, nothing wrong with that. I like boxing but hate to see anyone ever hurt in the sport, and guys usually get hurt cause they're to proud to quit or cause the ref or corner aren't throwing in the towel. Good fight, nothing wrong with ortiz's decision those were some bombs he took

My thoughts as well. This is a sport and while I love the blood and guts aspect the ultimate goal should be to protect the health of the fighters. He got up from the canvass once and put his opponent down several times after.

Maidana was able to dig deeper and credit to him for doing so, but if he (maidana) chose to quit I wouldn't have blamed him either. Both guys took a lot of punishment and delivered a very exciting fight.

I think Ortiz is smart guy for quiting when he did and had guts enough to finish a post fight interview after a devastating lost. Most guys would've left the ring immediately with tears in their throat. He'll get over it and will come back and learn from the lost.

I like many others hope that Maidana gets a world class trainer and quickly. He reminds a lot of Ricardo Torres. Great power and talent but could needs polishing.