Victor Ortiz is a quiter

[mexirican]

An exciting fight with a disappointing end. For growing up with a tough upbringing, Ortiz didn't show the heart a Mexican fighter typically has. Especially when fighting as the headliner in the town that supports you, He said he didn't want to go out on his back, well to me it would have been more respectable than turning his back and shaking his head. We've all seen fighters go on with cuts worst than that (Cotto fought 9 rds. with Colotty) Ortiz must dig deep and find the passion that got him recognized

[OumaFan]

I'm not gonna jump on the guy, but his interview called into question how much he's really into this IMO.

[generalbulldog]

Gerald McClellan didn't know when to quit against Nigel Benn. He's only partially deaf, blind, in a wheel chair, with brain damage and struggling to pay his medical bills. And he also had Nigel Benn helped him raise money to pay for his medical bills in one of those fundraisers.


The fans that were calling McClellan so brave in fighting to get brain damage sure as hell didn't give a damn about what happened to him after that bout with Benn. Victor should look out for himself first, not the fan's lust to see him get brain damage.

[ElTerribleMorales]

what were the first words Jones said when he finally lost? i'm not sure if it was in the 2nd Tarver fight or the Johnson loss, but i know he said "it's just not fun anymore" well no shit, getting KTFO isn't fun, and that's coming from a legend, give the kid a break he's 22, he can only learn from this

[Majesty]

I didn't take the he shouldnt be taking punishment like that the way Max did.

Of course Max takes it like he means he shouldnt be boxing.

But i think he meant he shouldn't be in there neglecting his boxing skills and defense and taking punishment and getting beat up by someone he shouldn't be getting beat up by. And I agree with him. He should have used his boxing skill advantages rather then constantly going for the KO. But he's young he is only 22 he'll learn. It was just too much too soon, he wasn't ready to be main eventing yet

[ElTerribleMorales]

I didn't take the he shouldnt be taking punishment like that the way Max did.

Of course Max takes it like he means he shouldnt be boxing.

But i think he meant he shouldn't be in there neglecting his boxing skills and defense and taking punishment and getting beat up by someone he shouldn't be getting beat up by. And I agree with him. He should have used his boxing skill advantages rather then constantly going for the KO. But he's young he is only 22 he'll learn. It was just too much too soon, he wasn't ready to be main eventing yet

same here, the way i understood it was, he shouldn't be taking the kind of punishment that he took at this stage of his career, that he's going to have to go back to the drawing board and work on his defense a bit, Maidana has anvils for fists, Ortiz's left eye was fine going into the last round, completely unswollen, not even half way into the round it looked like it had been being tagged on all night

[Pavlik]

I didn't take the he shouldnt be taking punishment like that the way Max did.

Of course Max takes it like he means he shouldnt be boxing.

But i think he meant he shouldn't be in there neglecting his boxing skills and defense and taking punishment and getting beat up by someone he shouldn't be getting beat up by. And I agree with him. He should have used his boxing skill advantages rather then constantly going for the KO. But he's young he is only 22 he'll learn. It was just too much too soon, he wasn't ready to be main eventing yet

same here, the way i understood it was, he shouldn't be taking the kind of punishment that he took at this stage of his career, that he's going to have to go back to the drawing board and work on his defense a bit, Maidana has anvils for fists, Ortiz's left eye was fine going into the last round, completely unswollen, not even half way into the round it looked like it had been being tagged on all night

anvil it is mate, the left hook that landed once made the cut, then I think 1 or 2 rights made the inflammation. I really hope Maidana gets a world class trainer.

[Pugilistic]

Why is it such a bad thing for a fighter to take care of his health.

I would much prefer a fighter quit and fight another day than to take a beating and never be the same again.

[Majesty]

Again I don't think he is so much a quitter. Even so people that have quit in fights before still had great careers or wasn't taken away from them. He fought the wrong style for the fight and acknowledged it. And I think it was smart of him to say he shouldnt be taking punishment or get beat up that way. Max Kellerman is an idiot for trying to put a negative spin on it saying he didn't wanna go out on his shield when thats not at all what he said. He said he would never end a fight on his back and would stay in there. That means he wants to fight it out and just lay on the canvas knocked out. And when he said he shouldnt be getting beat up like that he didn't mean he didn't want to be a boxer because he got hurt, he meant that he should have been fighting his fight and boxing rather then fighting the other guys fight and taking unnessesary punishment. But I wouldnt expect Max to understand that.