Victor Ortiz is a quiter

[Kev]

Victor is a good guy where as Khan is an arrogant prick that people wanted to see KO'ed

Many threads on why people give Khan a hard time already, but it's not down to him being an arrogant prick!

He's no different to any other boxer hyping himself up.

As for Ortiz I haven't seen the fight, anyone know where it'll get uploaded first? Damn UK TV boxing coverage...

Really cause pretty much saying he is great because he beat a one eyed MAB is being an arrogant prick in my book. I could revisit those threads as well and point out where people would agree with me as I have read those

Could you post a link to the interview Khan gave where he said he was a great because of the Barrera win, thanks

[Hunter]

Maidana and Ortiz both took a beating in that fight.....Even Maidana seemed a little woozy in the post fight interview......

Ortiz has skill but we will see how he deals with this defeat. Will he go down the road of bojado or other fighters that have lost early on.

I think the pressure from the De La Hoya Hype machine might have been too much for him at this stage......There was alot of pressure on him to be great....

[BoxingGorilla]

I know this is makes me a hippocrite (I'm a bit weighty these days) but I do not blame Ortiz for quiting. Maidana was doing his best Samuel Peter impersonation last night. I'd of quit. Ortiz had blood gushing out of one eye and the other was two punches away from swelling shut. He had already knocked Maidana down three times and each time Maidana rose to his feet.

What good does it do to suffer brain damage when your chances of winning were slimming by the second? No one wants to become the next Leavander Johnson.

I also thought that Robert Guerrero was smart to quit the fight before last.

[markb018]

Many threads on why people give Khan a hard time already, but it's not down to him being an arrogant prick!

He's no different to any other boxer hyping himself up.

As for Ortiz I haven't seen the fight, anyone know where it'll get uploaded first? Damn UK TV boxing coverage...

Really cause pretty much saying he is great because he beat a one eyed MAB is being an arrogant prick in my book. I could revisit those threads as well and point out where people would agree with me as I have read those

Could you post a link to the interview Khan gave where he said he was a great because of the Barrera win, thanks

“To beat a legend the way I did, it’s a massive highlight in my career, and it will take me on to the next level, get me known around the world and get a lot bigger fights,”

Amir Khan Beats Marco Antonio Barrera: Olympic Silver Medalist Triumphs Over Baby-Faced Assassin | Suite101.com

there is one i can look for more later.

[johnsebastianmiran]

Ortiz bit off more than he could chew but it was the referee that agreed with the ring doctor. Ortiz' only fault was he didn't stick to his original plan.

[BoxingGorilla]

Ortiz bit off more than he could chew but it was the referee that agreed with the ring doctor. Ortiz' only fault was he didn't stick to his original plan.

I'm positive that Ortiz looked like he was going to climb out of the ring before the ref called the doc over.

That's how I remember it. Ortiz turning sideways and acting sheepish, then the ref calling in the doctor.

[Gandalf]

Really cause pretty much saying he is great because he beat a one eyed MAB is being an arrogant prick in my book. I could revisit those threads as well and point out where people would agree with me as I have read those

Could you post a link to the interview Khan gave where he said he was a great because of the Barrera win, thanks

“To beat a legend the way I did, it’s a massive highlight in my career, and it will take me on to the next level, get me known around the world and get a lot bigger fights,”

Amir Khan Beats Marco Antonio Barrera: Olympic Silver Medalist Triumphs Over Baby-Faced Assassin | Suite101.com

there is one i can look for more later.

Grr! Don't get me started on that prize muppet!

What a wonderful way to get a victory over a legend. A dodgy butt and a shady stoppage only after victory was ensured! Should have been a NC. I sound like an old gramophone on this issue!

Ortiz sounds like DLH and comes across just as cheesy. It was probably a good thing it ended like it did. He's been getting too much hype and was found sorely lacking in the heart department.

[generalbulldog]

Ortiz might just need a new trainer and absolutely needs to work more on his defense.

Quite a few people here has mentioned that he had the ability to outbox Maidana but came into the fight the wrong way, which I would agree.

Even though I wasn't quite respectful of what happened to MAB in that Khan fight, but at least with a new trainer Khan showed quite an improvement in his defense and ring smarts.

Ortiz probably needs a new trainer to get him back on track.

[killersheep]

Ortiz might just need a new trainer and absolutely needs to work more on his defense.

Quite a few people here has mentioned that he had the ability to outbox Maidana but came into the fight the wrong way, which I would agree.

Even though I wasn't quite respectful of what happened to MAB in that Khan fight, but at least with a new trainer Khan showed quite an improvement in his defense and ring smarts.

Ortiz probably needs a new trainer to get him back on track.

The problem though is it wasn't his trainer, it was him choosing to deviate from the gameplan.

[CFH]

Really cause pretty much saying he is great because he beat a one eyed MAB is being an arrogant prick in my book. I could revisit those threads as well and point out where people would agree with me as I have read those

Could you post a link to the interview Khan gave where he said he was a great because of the Barrera win, thanks

“To beat a legend the way I did, it’s a massive highlight in my career, and it will take me on to the next level, get me known around the world and get a lot bigger fights,”

Amir Khan Beats Marco Antonio Barrera: Olympic Silver Medalist Triumphs Over Baby-Faced Assassin | Suite101.com

there is one i can look for more later.

Everything Khan said is perfectly accurate. Barrera is a legend, Khan did beat him, and the victory (disputed or not) will certainly increase his exposure and lead to bigger fights (ie a Kotelnik title match). Nowhere does he brag and he never once calls himself great or lauds himself in any way in the quote you provided.

[markb018]

Could you post a link to the interview Khan gave where he said he was a great because of the Barrera win, thanks

“To beat a legend the way I did, it’s a massive highlight in my career, and it will take me on to the next level, get me known around the world and get a lot bigger fights,”

Amir Khan Beats Marco Antonio Barrera: Olympic Silver Medalist Triumphs Over Baby-Faced Assassin | Suite101.com

there is one i can look for more later.

Everything Khan said is perfectly accurate. Barrera is a legend, Khan did beat him, and the victory (disputed or not) will certainly increase his exposure and lead to bigger fights (ie a Kotelnik title match). Nowhere does he brag and he never once calls himself great or lauds himself in any way in the quote you provided.

well i beg to differ, saying "to beat a legend the way i did" implies he destroyed him when in fact MAB was a one eyed fighter out there due to a butt in the first round.

[HattonTheHammer]

I never thought ortiz was a top level exponent at 140 and he barely scraped the 2nd tier of fighters even before maidana took him apart.

Shame he didnt go down with a bit of grace and take his lumps like a man as he would of had half a chance to win the fight.

But marcos just owned him for most of the night and apart from the flash knockdowns was never going to be troubled by ortiz.

[HattonTheHammer]

I never thought ortiz was a top level exponent at 140 and he barely scraped the 2nd tier of fighters even before maidana took him apart.

Shame he didnt go down with a bit of grace and take his lumps like a man as he would of had half a chance to win the fight.

But marcos just owned him for most of the night and apart from the flash knockdowns was never going to be troubled by ortiz.

I get up at 2am on a sunday morning to watch HBO/Showtime telecasts on a shitty internet stream why.....because i love the sport with a passion

You probably just TIVO`d the whole thing and skipped through till the end just because your hard drive was full up with pee wee playhouse and judge judy

[ElTerribleMorales]

I never thought ortiz was a top level exponent at 140 and he barely scraped the 2nd tier of fighters even before maidana took him apart.

Shame he didnt go down with a bit of grace and take his lumps like a man as he would of had half a chance to win the fight.

But marcos just owned him for most of the night and apart from the flash knockdowns was never going to be troubled by ortiz.

I get up at 2am on a sunday morning to watch HBO/Showtime telecasts on a shitty internet stream why.....because i love the sport with a passion

You probably just TIVO`d the whole thing and skipped through till the end just because your hard drive was full up with pee wee playhouse and judge judy

i've seen the fight already 4 times, and there were NO flash knock downs from either fighter, they all came from hard, solid shots, and both were hurt

[JT Rock]

I never thought ortiz was a top level exponent at 140 and he barely scraped the 2nd tier of fighters even before maidana took him apart.

Shame he didnt go down with a bit of grace and take his lumps like a man as he would of had half a chance to win the fight.

But marcos just owned him for most of the night and apart from the flash knockdowns was never going to be troubled by ortiz.

I get up at 2am on a sunday morning to watch HBO/Showtime telecasts on a shitty internet stream why.....because i love the sport with a passion

You probably just TIVO`d the whole thing and skipped through till the end just because your hard drive was full up with pee wee playhouse and judge judy

you crack me up with your proclamations and spin on fights. You could have been looking thru a steamy shower door with 2 black eyes and could tell they were stiff flush shots. I mean cmon man, why dont you own up to your mistakes or preface your comments with things like,

hey guys from my fuzzy stream they looked like flash knockdowns.

But no, you wheel off some asanine horseshit and state it like known fact, meanwhile everyone is shaking their head at you wondering what planet your from half the time