Victor Ortiz is a quiter

[boozeboxer]

Lost respect for him? Why? what's the toughest fight you've been in>

In my CHOSEN profession, I have been in incredibly hard fights.

I didnt choose boxing he did, again if you are going to go after something, pick something you would be willing to go out on your shield for.

Do you get battered in the face in your CHOSEN profession? It's very easy to sit here & talk like you would be there till the end, but the fact is he's in there, not any guys typing away on a message board. He's come from nothing and he's probably now made enough money to sort his future, and maybe the fact he's had to struggle makes him realize how much he values his life. No one wants to end up like Gerald McClellan & if you can't see the punches coming from a guy like Maidana than that's what you risk.

However, he does deserve to be criticized for the manner in which he fought the fight after knocking down Maidana twice. It showed that he's still too green, as a smarter fighter wouldn't have shot his bolt trying to get Maidana out of there.

He is a pro fighter that we pay to see. We can criticize him. I don't respect Acelino Freitas. And why? Because he got his cookies and cream too early.

[OumaFan]

Bit harsh on Diaz, which fight did he quit in? Campbell got into his head and gave him a bit of a beating but he showed a ton of heart against JMM.

[Spicoli]

Rewatching it for about the 5th time.I think alot of it was the huge push in promotion/hype.Solid foundation and natural power but god HBO has a track record with forcing the next big thing down a young talents throat as well as the viewing audience.Way too much emphasis was put on the power and blitzing guys out.Dont see him staying at 140...he has the torso of a jr.middle.He had better find a way to avoid right hands.

He just seemed so caught up.He opted out...it happens to many.But he has to be prepared to endure what goes with that.Spur of the moment but its a scarlet letter.The family turmoil is obviously still weighing heavy.Hes a kid and suddenly found himself in a dark alley with true adversity.The interview is what stuck with me...way too aloof.I think alot of these guys today are rushed past the fundamentals in overall boxing and the mental grounding that must accompany it in a clamor for the 'next big thing'.Mentality after this may be his biggest opponent,if its not solid, all the skills in the world wont mean much.

[JT Rock]

Rewatching it for about the 5th time.I think alot of it was the huge push in promotion/hype.Solid foundation and natural power but god HBO has a track record with forcing the next big thing down a young talents throat as well as the viewing audience.Way too much emphasis was put on the power and blitzing guys out.Dont see him staying at 140...he has the torso of a jr.middle.He had better find a way to avoid right hands.

He just seemed so caught up.He opted out...it happens to many.But he has to be prepared to endure what goes with that.Spur of the moment but its a scarlet letter.The family turmoil is obviously still weighing heavy.Hes a kid and suddenly found himself in a dark alley with true adversity.The interview is what stuck with me...way too aloof.I think alot of these guys today are rushed past the fundamentals in overall boxing and the mental grounding that must accompany it in a clamor for the 'next big thing'.Mentality after this may be his biggest opponent,if its not solid, all the skills in the world wont mean much.

Well especially in this economy and lean budgets for networks, they just like everyone else is looking to limit the bleeding of the wallet. These guys are going to be pushed and showcased to draw interest, ratings and $$$$$$$$$

Thats why it suprised me to hear Arum talk about Gamboa and JML. it would be nice if they could wait. Unfortunately no can afford to wait in this economy