Am i the only one who thinks Pacquiao should be fighting Mosley??

[JonesJrMayweather]

When did Mosley beat Oscar more clearly than Mayweather? Which fucking fight? The first one he didn't, the second fight which was a more complete Oscar, he didn't even deserve to win that fight, and was outlanded by a large margin. Also that Mosley isn't the one you see today, both of those versions of him possessed a little more speed, and a little more power, I don't think he was a lot worse, but a little bit worse for sure, even though now he is a little better at dealing with the bigger guys.

Vargas was bigger, but severly weight drained especially in the second fight, and he was way past his prime, which he wasn't when he faced Oscar.

Mayorga was bigger than Oscar also, but Oscar has better punching power, and he is a better boxer than Mosley who is primarily speed.

Are you honestly arguing who has the better timing between SHane Mosley and Cotto? Watch their fight again, it was close but Cotto clearly won, and he was badly outtiming Mosley early.

Against Margarito, SHane wasn't fighting off the ropes like Cotto was, once again watch Mosley-COtto, Miguel was landing the much harder punches between them. Shane also muscled Margarito around, which I said Cotto should have done, he was moving Tony around the few times he clinched him, but Mosley was leaning on Margarito, forcing him backwards and landing big punches while Margarito wasn't.

Explain to me how Floyd sapped the energy out of Baldomir, while Judah and Vernon FOrrest who hit harder couldn't make him lose his spirit. Its because not being able to land punches tires you out way faster than landing shots. Thats why Pavlik got so tired against Hopkins.

Shane hit oscar more times than anyone oscar has ever faced in that first fight. And if you're saying that "mosley was a different fighter back then" than surely oscar was a different fighter he was "prime" practically undefeated when he faced mosley. Not some money hungry whore that Floyd faced. And in the second fight mosley was clearly hindered mentally or something by the added muscle and was only throwing one or two punches at a time not one fluid combo. I also thought Oscar won the fight. But nevertheless Shane got the decision. Much Like cotto over shane.

Oh I watched it more than enough to know that shane was hurting miguel much more than he was being hurt, thats why cotto was running the couple of rounds. Which also served as an indicator that he (cotto) probably would tire against Margarito.

what I don't understand is how you're one of the few alone with floyd and his lapdog ellerbe who doesn't think shane is deserving of mega fight. We can go on forever about who we think did better against who and when. But the fact of the matter is this:

SHANE MOSLEY as it stands is the number WW in the world PERIOD. Regardless of what he used to be. Even if he is a shell of the package he once was, the leftover version thoroughly dominated then kayoed the undisputed WW champ Antonio Margarito. No one else at WW can make that claim. Esp not Cotto.

[Taeth]

Manny landed nearly as many punches in 8 rounds as Mosley did in 11 in ODLH-Mosley I. Oscar wasn't at his prime, people get confused by the fact that he was faster, but his boxing skills, his right hand, his movement, his defense were all still undeveloped compared to later. If Mosley bulked up naturally then it would make sense that he would be slower, but due to the fact he used steriods he would have more quick twitch fiber and would be faster, the reason he didn't look as good is he started to wing punches, and guys like Oscar, Winky, and Forest realized he isn't a great outside fighter.

On another subject Cotto was affected more by Mosley's punches than vice virsa for the obvious reason, Mosley has 10x the chin he does, but it was clear to see who landing the harder punches, and Cotto forced Mosley to run as well, and while Cotto had a cut in his mouth, Mosley just plain backed off because Cotto was beating him to the punch, and landing a lot harder.

The reason Pacquiao and Mayweather shouldn't face Mosley before eachother and COtto is because it makes no sense, hardly anyone considers Mosley a better fighter than Cotto, and he can't draw the same crowd Cotto, PAcquiao, and Mayweather can. Mayweather is coming off two years of retirement, is Marquez not a valid come back fight? I didn't see people chewing Pavlik's ass off for fighting Rubio or Cotto for facing Michael Jennings. Marquez is one hell of a fighter to face for a comeback fight. I think personally MArquez is more dangerous for a guy like Mayweather, he's sharper, he's very fast, he will take a punch to land one, and he has good outside boxing skills. I see him taking Mayweather into deep waters in different ways than Mosley, but I think those waters are deeper. I think its harder to nullify Marquez than it is to nullify Mosley if Mayweather can't hurt MArquez.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Manny landed nearly as many punches in 8 rounds as Mosley did in 11 in ODLH-Mosley I. Oscar wasn't at his prime, people get confused by the fact that he was faster, but his boxing skills, his right hand, his movement, his defense were all still undeveloped compared to later. If Mosley bulked up naturally then it would make sense that he would be slower, but due to the fact he used steriods he would have more quick twitch fiber and would be faster, the reason he didn't look as good is he started to wing punches, and guys like Oscar, Winky, and Forest realized he isn't a great outside fighter.

On another subject Cotto was affected more by Mosley's punches than vice virsa for the obvious reason, Mosley has 10x the chin he does, but it was clear to see who landing the harder punches, and Cotto forced Mosley to run as well, and while Cotto had a cut in his mouth, Mosley just plain backed off because Cotto was beating him to the punch, and landing a lot harder.

The reason Pacquiao and Mayweather shouldn't face Mosley before eachother and COtto is because it makes no sense, hardly anyone considers Mosley a better fighter than Cotto, and he can't draw the same crowd Cotto, PAcquiao, and Mayweather can. Mayweather is coming off two years of retirement, is Marquez not a valid come back fight? I didn't see people chewing Pavlik's ass off for fighting Rubio or Cotto for facing Michael Jennings. Marquez is one hell of a fighter to face for a comeback fight. I think personally MArquez is more dangerous for a guy like Mayweather, he's sharper, he's very fast, he will take a punch to land one, and he has good outside boxing skills. I see him taking Mayweather into deep waters in different ways than Mosley, but I think those waters are deeper. I think its harder to nullify Marquez than it is to nullify Mosley if Mayweather can't hurt MArquez.

You have to be working for floyd or just..i don't know man...but dude are you seriously saying that oscar wasn't prime when fought mosley? And suggesting that floyd fought a better version? Dude by your logic about oscar not being prime when faced mosley means that oscar is a mediocre contender at best, because if he wasn't prime until after he fought shane that means his record according to you is

32-1 not prime with wins over JCCx2, Sweet PEA, Quartey, hernandez, leija, carr, camacho, campanaella, with only that controversial loss to tito...

7-5 (prime or post Mosley I) with wins over Gatti (please), Castelleijo, forbes, mayorga, vargas, campas, a bullshit decision over Sturm and two losses by way of stoppage?

In what world did he get better after he lost to Mosley?

and secondly, dude your punching power doesn't mean anything if its nullified by the opponents chin...your punching power in ring only counts if you HURT your opponent. And Mosley hurt Cotto more. Which brings me back to Mosley Kayoed Margarito with less punches landed than cotto, regardless of whether or not Margarito was able to get off or not. He was fucking stopped. He had never been stopped before. You say floyd zapped Baldomir's energy by making him miss? But he didn't stop him did he? Because he didn't have the power to. Cotto landed over one hundred more punches than shane against Tony and he still walked through them. Shane at 154 wobbled Winky, kayoed Vargas and Mayorga...Cotto hasn't stopped one fighter or even hurt an opponent with a granite chin since he's been at WW...