Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
Manny landed nearly as many punches in 8 rounds as Mosley did in 11 in ODLH-Mosley I. Oscar wasn't at his prime, people get confused by the fact that he was faster, but his boxing skills, his right hand, his movement, his defense were all still undeveloped compared to later. If Mosley bulked up naturally then it would make sense that he would be slower, but due to the fact he used steriods he would have more quick twitch fiber and would be faster, the reason he didn't look as good is he started to wing punches, and guys like Oscar, Winky, and Forest realized he isn't a great outside fighter.

On another subject Cotto was affected more by Mosley's punches than vice virsa for the obvious reason, Mosley has 10x the chin he does, but it was clear to see who landing the harder punches, and Cotto forced Mosley to run as well, and while Cotto had a cut in his mouth, Mosley just plain backed off because Cotto was beating him to the punch, and landing a lot harder.

The reason Pacquiao and Mayweather shouldn't face Mosley before eachother and COtto is because it makes no sense, hardly anyone considers Mosley a better fighter than Cotto, and he can't draw the same crowd Cotto, PAcquiao, and Mayweather can. Mayweather is coming off two years of retirement, is Marquez not a valid come back fight? I didn't see people chewing Pavlik's ass off for fighting Rubio or Cotto for facing Michael Jennings. Marquez is one hell of a fighter to face for a comeback fight. I think personally MArquez is more dangerous for a guy like Mayweather, he's sharper, he's very fast, he will take a punch to land one, and he has good outside boxing skills. I see him taking Mayweather into deep waters in different ways than Mosley, but I think those waters are deeper. I think its harder to nullify Marquez than it is to nullify Mosley if Mayweather can't hurt MArquez.
You have to be working for floyd or just..i don't know man...but dude are you seriously saying that oscar wasn't prime when fought mosley? And suggesting that floyd fought a better version? Dude by your logic about oscar not being prime when faced mosley means that oscar is a mediocre contender at best, because if he wasn't prime until after he fought shane that means his record according to you is

32-1 not prime with wins over JCCx2, Sweet PEA, Quartey, hernandez, leija, carr, camacho, campanaella, with only that controversial loss to tito...

7-5 (prime or post Mosley I) with wins over Gatti (please), Castelleijo, forbes, mayorga, vargas, campas, a bullshit decision over Sturm and two losses by way of stoppage?

In what world did he get better after he lost to Mosley?

and secondly, dude your punching power doesn't mean anything if its nullified by the opponents chin...your punching power in ring only counts if you HURT your opponent. And Mosley hurt Cotto more. Which brings me back to Mosley Kayoed Margarito with less punches landed than cotto, regardless of whether or not Margarito was able to get off or not. He was fucking stopped. He had never been stopped before. You say floyd zapped Baldomir's energy by making him miss? But he didn't stop him did he? Because he didn't have the power to. Cotto landed over one hundred more punches than shane against Tony and he still walked through them. Shane at 154 wobbled Winky, kayoed Vargas and Mayorga...Cotto hasn't stopped one fighter or even hurt an opponent with a granite chin since he's been at WW...