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No, ONE OF the goals is to win... the other and usually most important one to a professional (as in makes money) is to make money and fans.

So obviously the way in which you win does matter with regards to that.
11 million viewers just in Germany doesn't matter? 61,000 fans in the stadium to watch the fight doesn't matter? I mean not everyone tuned in to watch David Haye, not everyone bought tickets to see David Haye. I will tell you if Wlad was American he'd be on his 10th PPV fight by now....fighting style wouldn't mind, they would compare him to Larry Holmes and he'd be selling crap on TV

Wlad won the fight, he stopped Chagaev a guy who had never lost, never been knocked down, and he just dominated him and yet he gets 0 respect, he knocks out Ray Austin with a HUGE punch and follow up and he gets 0 credit....it doesn't matter what Wladimir does the haters are just going to hate. If Wlad KO's David Haye with the 1st punch of the fight he'll get no credit, if Wlad loses it'll be HUGE for David Haye but at the end of the day it'll be the same old crap for Wlad "He's scared to get hit, he's chinny" blah blah blah, and if Wlad wins an all out war it's not going to matter, it won't help his cause with the haters because that's just what you guys do.


Actually my impression is that most on here would respect him more if he got through, win or lose, an all out war.

It kind of goes to your statement in the other post, about people in the end really only wanting to see Wlad lose in the end because they are haters. Me personally; I don't think most members on here really want to see him lose so much as take those risks, especially when he is in a position to do so{and has the skill set}when the fight is all but over and it goes more rounds than necessary. It's kind of like seeing a Great White shark circling and pecking at a seal until it's just dead instead of just putting the lights out after the initial blow, due to past experiences of getting injured by one and having reservations. I know it's a horrible analogy but the only one my limited mind is capable of right now

I actually think alot of people here want to get behind Wlad, because he has the tools to be an exciting heavyweight, yet gives off more the air of one who more increasingly has become timid. Or they just like pissing you off