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    Default Re: Michael Jacksons Molest Accuser admits to lying

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    Let me ask you this Majesty, if ANY other famous celebrity was accused of molesting a boy and rather than take it to court they paid the accuser $22,000,000 would you believe they were totally innocent?
    I have, it wasnt a boy thought, but it was a similar situation, the celebrities name was Kobe Bryant Shaq too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    If the accuser also claimed he knew about distinguishing features on the accused's knob and a medical showed he did have those features would you not be even more inclined to doubt the accused if it was ANYONE else other than MJ?
    If the accuser said that then why were the criminal proceedings closed its criminal investigation because of lack of evidence. Answer that Ever think that it was settled in a Civil suit because Michael wanted the proceedings to not be drawn out for years and wanted to move on with his life? Or are Shaq and Kobe also rapists? for settling out of court as many celebrities have before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    If ANY other black celebrity in history slowly started to change colour from black to white in a completely uniform and even manner all over his whole body would you believe it was due to vitiligo? I'm not an expert on the disease but has this has happened to ANYBODY else in history? It sounds like a medical marvel to me, like the tree man or the six armed girl.
    Then don't be anal about it. And yes Vitiligo have happened to other people in history, there is comedian Graham Norton, who is naturally white and still got it, also news anchor Lee Thomas who wrote a book "Turning White" And was also on the Montell Williams show talking about the disease. Apparently Krizz Kaliko who is a rapper has the disorder and even wrote a song about it. The creator of the Venture Bros. TV show has it. This guy from Reno 911! a Show on Comedy Central has it. and Panlilio who is governor of a part of the Phillipines actually has it. Look it up if you don't believe me, Michael isnt the ONLY celebrity to get Vitiligo.

    And here's something on youtube about Lee Thomas I suggest you watch it

    YouTube - Vitiligo - Lee Thomas - Turning White 2020 Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Yet Michael because he's a 'child man' is totally innocent of any and all allegations and is a perfect human being.
    No one is perfect but he isn't a rapist or a pedophile either in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    But like I say before you tell me how wrong I am, just tell me a single other celebrity on earth who if they paid $22,000,000 to a kid accusing him of raping them and whose skin turned from black to white that you would believe they were telling the truth?
    Yep, if the cases happened exactly as they did. You forget, or you refuse to give me the benefit of the doubt that I actually looked over these cases, my mother has me study law for crying out loud, I don't think he's innocent because he is Michael Jackson, I think he's innocent because I think he's innocent.

    This is the last post im making in response to you on this subject I hope you got what you were looking for. Talk to you on other forums where we can actually agree on something, like boxing.

    Here's some rep for the debate.
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    Default Re: Michael Jacksons Molest Accuser admits to lying

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    Let me ask you this Majesty, if ANY other famous celebrity was accused of molesting a boy and rather than take it to court they paid the accuser $22,000,000 would you believe they were totally innocent?
    I have, it wasnt a boy thought, but it was a similar situation, the celebrities name was Kobe Bryant Shaq too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    If the accuser also claimed he knew about distinguishing features on the accused's knob and a medical showed he did have those features would you not be even more inclined to doubt the accused if it was ANYONE else other than MJ?
    If the accuser said that then why were the criminal proceedings closed its criminal investigation because of lack of evidence. Answer that Ever think that it was settled in a Civil suit because Michael wanted the proceedings to not be drawn out for years and wanted to move on with his life? Or are Shaq and Kobe also rapists? for settling out of court as many celebrities have before.



    Then don't be anal about it. And yes Vitiligo have happened to other people in history, there is comedian Graham Norton, who is naturally white and still got it, also news anchor Lee Thomas who wrote a book "Turning White" And was also on the Montell Williams show talking about the disease. Apparently Krizz Kaliko who is a rapper has the disorder and even wrote a song about it. The creator of the Venture Bros. TV show has it. This guy from Reno 911! a Show on Comedy Central has it. and Panlilio who is governor of a part of the Phillipines actually has it. Look it up if you don't believe me, Michael isnt the ONLY celebrity to get Vitiligo.

    And here's something on youtube about Lee Thomas I suggest you watch it

    YouTube - Vitiligo - Lee Thomas - Turning White 2020 Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Yet Michael because he's a 'child man' is totally innocent of any and all allegations and is a perfect human being.
    No one is perfect but he isn't a rapist or a pedophile either in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    But like I say before you tell me how wrong I am, just tell me a single other celebrity on earth who if they paid $22,000,000 to a kid accusing him of raping them and whose skin turned from black to white that you would believe they were telling the truth?
    Yep, if the cases happened exactly as they did. You forget, or you refuse to give me the benefit of the doubt that I actually looked over these cases, my mother has me study law for crying out loud, I don't think he's innocent because he is Michael Jackson, I think he's innocent because I think he's innocent.

    This is the last post im making in response to you on this subject I hope you got what you were looking for. Talk to you on other forums where we can actually agree on something, like boxing.

    Here's some rep for the debate.
    You didn't answer my post because you are a delusional idiot who tries to talk like Jackson , what a twat !

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    Default Re: Michael Jacksons Molest Accuser admits to lying

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post

    Let me ask you this Majesty, if ANY other famous celebrity was accused of molesting a boy and rather than take it to court they paid the accuser $22,000,000 would you believe they were totally innocent?
    I have, it wasnt a boy thought, but it was a similar situation, the celebrities name was Kobe Bryant Shaq too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    If the accuser also claimed he knew about distinguishing features on the accused's knob and a medical showed he did have those features would you not be even more inclined to doubt the accused if it was ANYONE else other than MJ?
    If the accuser said that then why were the criminal proceedings closed its criminal investigation because of lack of evidence. Answer that Ever think that it was settled in a Civil suit because Michael wanted the proceedings to not be drawn out for years and wanted to move on with his life? Or are Shaq and Kobe also rapists? for settling out of court as many celebrities have before.



    Then don't be anal about it. And yes Vitiligo have happened to other people in history, there is comedian Graham Norton, who is naturally white and still got it, also news anchor Lee Thomas who wrote a book "Turning White" And was also on the Montell Williams show talking about the disease. Apparently Krizz Kaliko who is a rapper has the disorder and even wrote a song about it. The creator of the Venture Bros. TV show has it. This guy from Reno 911! a Show on Comedy Central has it. and Panlilio who is governor of a part of the Phillipines actually has it. Look it up if you don't believe me, Michael isnt the ONLY celebrity to get Vitiligo.

    And here's something on youtube about Lee Thomas I suggest you watch it

    YouTube - Vitiligo - Lee Thomas - Turning White 2020 Interview

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    Yet Michael because he's a 'child man' is totally innocent of any and all allegations and is a perfect human being.
    No one is perfect but he isn't a rapist or a pedophile either in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    But like I say before you tell me how wrong I am, just tell me a single other celebrity on earth who if they paid $22,000,000 to a kid accusing him of raping them and whose skin turned from black to white that you would believe they were telling the truth?
    Yep, if the cases happened exactly as they did. You forget, or you refuse to give me the benefit of the doubt that I actually looked over these cases, my mother has me study law for crying out loud, I don't think he's innocent because he is Michael Jackson, I think he's innocent because I think he's innocent.

    This is the last post im making in response to you on this subject I hope you got what you were looking for. Talk to you on other forums where we can actually agree on something, like boxing.

    Here's some rep for the debate.

    Majesty Majesty Majesty (shakes head)

    First off Kobe Bryant DID admit to having sex with that girl he just denied it was rape and said it was consensual and it was settled out of court.

    Do you think if he hadn't had sex with her at all he would have apologised and settled? Hell no he'd say he never touched her at all, and COUNTER SUE!!!! Legal action and criminal proceedings would be launched both ways because he would allege she was a liar and a fraud.

    But as he HAD had sex with her he could only say it was a miscommunication at best.

    Michael claims he NEVER TOUCHED a child AT ALL, yet paid $22,000,000 anyway


    Ok onto the vitiligo. Yes I know its a real disease and I can accept that Michael had it, but it doesn't spread in a uniform even manner over the whole body.

    Michael gradually turned white in perfect union over his whole body, there were no blotches on his face. Please show us the pictures where his black face was covered in unsightly white stains for years whilst he was undergoing the transition....

    Maybe he so hated the stains he had, (his hand and penis for example) that he bleached the rest of his body so it all matched but he still artificially changed his colour.

    If you disagree again show me ONE SINGLE example of someone else who changed colour from black to white in one go without signs of blotch and stain, but just gradually and harmoniously over his whole body faded to white?

    I'm not trying to shatter your illusions of MJ, I'm sure he was a decent, loving man but he has some very dubious lifestyle claims against him and his protestations of innocence seem to be 'unlikely' at best.

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    Michael gradually turned white in perfect union over his whole body, there were no blotches on his face. Please show us the pictures where his black face was covered in unsightly white stains for years whilst he was undergoing the transition....
    If I remember correctly, MJ doesn't normally go out in shorts or no-sleeve shirts to come with a conclusion that he suddenly became white from night to morning. Look at his clothes. If he shows skin is his left hand (the other one has that globe) and face. If I remember correctly, vitiligo started to do its thing on him during his late 20s. Being in the Hollywood scene, I don't see how he wouldn't be able to touch up white spots on his face with make up.
    http://oddorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/michael-jackson.jpg
    http://www.jacksonaction.com/text/vitiligo-filer/image008.jpg
    http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/jackson_468x344.jpg
    There's a video on YouTube as well, don't have it with me but I can look for it when I go home. Just type "Michael Jackson vitiligo" or something. I am sure something will come up.
    Maybe he so hated the stains he had, (his hand and penis for example) that he bleached the rest of his body so it all matched but he still artificially changed his colour.
    If you disagree again show me ONE SINGLE example of someone else who changed colour from black to white in one go without signs of blotch and stain, but just gradually and harmoniously over his whole body faded to white?
    My assumption is that it wasn't from night to morning. He is covered MOST of the time so it would make sense for him to cover himself even more while he was going through this disease until he was covered by it. It took my father a couple of years to turn completely white. My father could go to Russia and people would think he was from there and not a Mexican from then interior of Mexico who had dark skin. The difference is that my father didn't have access to Hollywood make up and what not to cover his white stains on his face and body and then stop using that once his body was completely white.
    I'm not trying to shatter your illusions of MJ, I'm sure he was a decent, loving man but he has some very dubious lifestyle claims against him and his protestations of innocence seem to be 'unlikely' at best
    Sure, there are doubts about this and that, but the whole vitiligo thing I can somehow understand. I've seen it in my very own family and can understand certain things MJ does about it (umbrella, not being in the sun for long times, using clothes that cover most of your body, etc.).
    What I find a bit sad is that, ok, people had doubts about different things and all but everybody forgets about the orphanages and hospitals he built around the world, Heal the World Foundation, "We are the World" thing, etc. And people rather talk about him fixing his nose or not among other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chino View Post
    Michael gradually turned white in perfect union over his whole body, there were no blotches on his face. Please show us the pictures where his black face was covered in unsightly white stains for years whilst he was undergoing the transition....
    If I remember correctly, MJ doesn't normally go out in shorts or no-sleeve shirts to come with a conclusion that he suddenly became white from night to morning. Look at his clothes. If he shows skin is his left hand (the other one has that globe) and face. If I remember correctly, vitiligo started to do its thing on him during his late 20s. Being in the Hollywood scene, I don't see how he wouldn't be able to touch up white spots on his face with make up.
    http://oddorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/michael-jackson.jpg
    http://www.jacksonaction.com/text/vitiligo-filer/image008.jpg
    http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/11_01/jackson_468x344.jpg
    There's a video on YouTube as well, don't have it with me but I can look for it when I go home. Just type "Michael Jackson vitiligo" or something. I am sure something will come up.
    Maybe he so hated the stains he had, (his hand and penis for example) that he bleached the rest of his body so it all matched but he still artificially changed his colour.
    If you disagree again show me ONE SINGLE example of someone else who changed colour from black to white in one go without signs of blotch and stain, but just gradually and harmoniously over his whole body faded to white?
    My assumption is that it wasn't from night to morning. He is covered MOST of the time so it would make sense for him to cover himself even more while he was going through this disease until he was covered by it. It took my father a couple of years to turn completely white. My father could go to Russia and people would think he was from there and not a Mexican from then interior of Mexico who had dark skin. The difference is that my father didn't have access to Hollywood make up and what not to cover his white stains on his face and body and then stop using that once his body was completely white.
    I'm not trying to shatter your illusions of MJ, I'm sure he was a decent, loving man but he has some very dubious lifestyle claims against him and his protestations of innocence seem to be 'unlikely' at best
    Sure, there are doubts about this and that, but the whole vitiligo thing I can somehow understand. I've seen it in my very own family and can understand certain things MJ does about it (umbrella, not being in the sun for long times, using clothes that cover most of your body, etc.).
    What I find a bit sad is that, ok, people had doubts about different things and all but everybody forgets about the orphanages and hospitals he built around the world, Heal the World Foundation, "We are the World" thing, etc. And people rather talk about him fixing his nose or not among other things.

    Good post Chino can't really argue with any of that. He did indeed cover up a great deal when he was out and make up could have been used to hide it to an extent. Knowing how weird Michael in the rest of his life it wouldn't at all suprise me if he did bleach it, in fact I still believe he did, but you're experience means you can't discount the idea of vitiligo completely.

    As for the other stuff he did I agree he did some great things, and the good definitely outweighs the bad, he was just 'controversial' shall we say...

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