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    Bilbo's Mom Guest

    Default Re: Can one really be ranked P4P when you demand catch weights?

    Ok first off curse all you disagreeing, I had to ask Saddo to boot me so I couldn't reply to this as I'm busy but I can't resist damnit

    Let me answer these objections as best I can.

    bzkfn said Catchweight fights for me are just another step of demeaning Boxing. We have too many world titles, too many weight divisions. The emphasis on being a 'world' champion doesn't mean much anymore.

    No. What's demeaning boxing is that we have seemingly dozens of organisations with their own world title belts and upto 7 or 8 world title belts per division, including in some absurd cases two champions in the same organisation!

    What's GREAT for boxing is when the alphabet paper champs get ignored and the BEST FIGHT THE BEST as in Pacquaio Cotto. Whether its for a paper belt or not who gives a shit! It's the FIGHT that counts!

    @JonesJrMayweather, Ok so let's explain the Oscar thing. First off this was NOT NOT NOT NOT a catchweight fight. Oscar was a 154 lber and Manny a 135 lber. Manny agreed to jump two further weight classes whilst Oscar agreed to drop down one weight class. That's NOT a catchweight, the 147 lb weight division is a REAL division.

    The fact that Oscar was weight drained is IRRELEVENT! What if Oscar had smashed Pacquiao like most were expecting? Would Manny have just moved up too high?

    And please explain the logic of when a fight moves down a weight class its a catchweight fight and therefore fake bullshit but when a fighter moves up its not?

    And what about the catchweight fight Hopkins vs Wright? Didn't everyone moan about that one being unfair to Wright because he had never fought above 160 and was too small for B Hop at 170lbs?

    Didn't people at the time argue that B HOP should COME DOWN and fight at if not 160 then around 165 so it was fairer., YES THEY DID CHECK THE THREADS!!!!


    Ok so now to the question why is it ok for Manny to fight Oscar at 147 and not Cotto or Mosely.

    Well isn't obvious? All three fighters are much bigger than Manny. In a fight at either of their chosen weight classes it isn't a fair fight. Manny is a natural 135-140 lbs right that's his optimum weight so fighting these guys at THEIR optimum weight gives THEM an advantage.

    So to level the playing the field a bit and allow these MEGA EVENTS, POSSIBLY BEST FIGHTS OF THE MILLENIUM!! to take place BOTH fighters have to give a little.

    In Oscars case he moved down one weight class and Manny moved UP THREE! (not counting his brief water testing at lightweight)

    In Mosely and Cotto's case Manny agrees to move up 3 or 4 lbs and they move down 3 or 4 lbs.

    That's totally fair! And importantly it allows for these potential MEGA FIGHTS, AWESOME EVENTS WHICH EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE to take place when they OTHERWISE MIGHT NOT! How much clearer does it need to be?

    (I apologise for the caps, they annoy me too, but I am an internet warrior and have no control over my frantic keyboard mashing bony fingers)
    Last edited by Bilbo's Mom; 07-03-2009 at 03:49 PM.

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