Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
No, he should not recieve full credit. Now if he was to fight Cotto at 147 with none of these phoney strings attached I would give him full credit for the win. Manny is looking for big money fights whilst trying to avoid risk by bringing WW's down from their optimum fighting weights. There are no more big money fights at 140 for him so he is trying on this tactic.

I refuse to give him much credit for that kind of carry on.
Miles you are simply wrong mate.

Had Oscar beaten Hopkins you wouldn't have credited him with that win?

As he lost, does that mean he's fucking useless as Hopkins must surely have been weight drained at 158 lbs and Oscar still got knocked out?

What about Hopkins win over Tarver? Tarver had just dropped down from heavyweight, Hopkins just beat a shell?

What about Pavlik losing to Hopkins? That fight was at a catchweight of 170 lbs. Pavlik was dominated by a weight drained Hopkins who gave up double the amount of weight than the two pounds Cotto might have to.

What about Joe Calzaghe's win over Hopkins? That was fought at 173 lbs so again Hopkins was weight drained. Why didn't they fight at the full 175 limit, does Calzaghe get no credit for that win?

I honestly think you guys are just letting your hate overtake your common sense.