Rumors of Pac wanting Cotto at 143 Catchweight

[OumaFan]

Well I don't think there's a major problem with 145, its just evening the playing field a bit since Cotto I think can make that and its not like Manny would even come in at 145, more like 142 or so.

But 143 would be BS. However, I've only heard 145 except for one source, this examiner site which isn't exactly known for boxing news. I'm sure people will take this and run with it, the same people who said Manny was ducking Hatton, but I suspect when it comes off it will be 145. If it turns out to be 143 Manny and his team deserve the criticism unless Cotto knows something we don't, I've got to think cutting to 143 would bother him.

[JazMerkin]

I don't think 145 is evening the playing field, however, I think its at least doable for Cotto. Anything under & I think Pac loses a lot of credit he would otherwise get. However, a lot of the blame would go to Cotto for accepting it if he can't do it

[killersheep]

Well this kind of nullifies the point of 7th weight class right?

be it 145 or 143 those are not weight class limits.

[AdamGB]

Well this kind of nullifies the point of 7th weight class right?

he wants 147 pounds worth of credit... just not 147 pounds worth of boxer infront of him...

[TheMacMagician]

What happens if pac beats cotto at a catch weight for the title? Does he then drag everyone else down to a catchweight if and when he defends it?

This is making a load of crap out of the weight divisions even more. Pacman should haul his ass off to some kind of special catchweight hang out where he could try eat shit loads of big macs and challenge an uber fit arreola to a super middleweight clash.

I'm no boxing genius by any means, but i'm sick of hearin about Pacman and what weight he fights at. You either want the fight or you don't, seems to me that he's bein a pussy and him and freddie know for sure that they can't beat cotto at 147.......... If i could set fire to this thread i would strike a cyber matchstick right now.....

[CGM]

Well this kind of nullifies the point of 7th weight class right?

be it 145 or 143 those are not weight class limits.

You are correct. If Pacquaio wins, his record won't be 7 weight divisions, it'll be 7 weight divisions with an asterisk. Plain and simple.

This all says something about the sanctioning body too. They are perfectly willing to bend their rules for the right amount of money.

[Spicoli]

Lately I feel as if we are watching two guys in a car lot haggle over the fine print on a financing contract.This is asinine.

If Manny wants to be-win a welterweight title against one of the better welter champions.He needs to fight him at his current and proven most effective weight.Thats pretty simplictic.....but it really is that simple.Cotto should not reduce his weight.

[JT Rock]

The point is, there is no glory.. BOTTOM LINE!!

Cotto is an excellent boxer with a tight defense and beastly power. Cotto has shown he can battle thru adversity even if being beaten up.

I say Cotto smashes him even at 145, Miguel can box superbly off the back foot and counterpunch effectively, Manny can be counterpunched we have seen JMM do it for 24 rounds

I already stated how nauseating it is about Roach and Manny pandering for Catchweights with the 147 division, if they want to fight at 147 then do it, if not then stay at 140. These guys at Welter are there and making a living at their optimum weight. Most have grown out of 140 and cant do it thats why they moved. There is no accolades or 1 shred of dignity fighting 143lb versions of Shane or Cotto

Especially after RP33 mentioned DLH at 147 was good enough and Roach said a Mayweather fight at 147 was fine too.

[AdamGB]

Pac is becoming just as bad as Floyd is... he wants a marguee fight against a big name... just not one who has an advantage over him... his fans will knock Floyd for trying to reduce the adversity he is up against whilst earning as much as he can but they don't see how similar what Pac is doing is.

De La Hoya ended up coming in at 145 or something... Why can he cope with that, but not a 145 Cotto? weight isn't the issue here... the drain of boiling down is.

If this turns out to be true then it's because he knows that because Cotto is smaller than ODLH he would find it much easier to make that weight... and therfore wouldn't be as drained.

[JT Rock]

Pac is becoming just as bad as Floyd is... he wants a marguee fight against a big name... just not one who has an advantage over him... his fans will knock Floyd for trying to reduce the adversity he is up against whilst earning as much as he can but they don't see how similar what Pac is doing is.

De La Hoya ended up coming in at 145 or something... Why can he cope with that, but not a 145 Cotto? weight isn't the issue here... the drain of boiling down is.

If this turns out to be true then it's because he knows that because Cotto is smaller than ODLH he would find it much easier to make that weight... and therfore wouldn't be as drained.

Say what you want about Floyd, but he never tried draining a fighter down before.

Hatton was at 147 before and wanted a shot at the Liner Welterweight Championship and the $$$$$$$$$ a Floyd fight brought

JMM called out Floyd and wants to be the one to take that 0 off his record

Floyd fought a healthy full 154 version of Delahoya whilst giving him every advantage, gloves, ring size etc. Why cant Pac fight Mosely or Cotto under those same conditions?

[ICB]

Pac is becoming just as bad as Floyd is... he wants a marguee fight against a big name... just not one who has an advantage over him... his fans will knock Floyd for trying to reduce the adversity he is up against whilst earning as much as he can but they don't see how similar what Pac is doing is.

De La Hoya ended up coming in at 145 or something... Why can he cope with that, but not a 145 Cotto? weight isn't the issue here... the drain of boiling down is.

If this turns out to be true then it's because he knows that because Cotto is smaller than ODLH he would find it much easier to make that weight... and therfore wouldn't be as drained.

Say what you want about Floyd, but he never tried draining a fighter down before.

Hatton was at 147 before and wanted a shot at the Liner Welterweight Championship and the $$$$$$$$$ a Floyd fight brought

JMM called out Floyd and wants to be the one to take that 0 off his record

Floyd fought a healthy full 154 version of Delahoya whilst giving him every advantage, gloves, ring size etc. Why cant Pac fight Mosely or Cotto under those same conditions?

Agreed and its not like Floyd Mayweather Jr is alot smaller than Manny Pacquiao, when he was Manny Pacquiao's age in the Amateurs wasn't he a Featherweight ?

I give Manny Pacquiao credit but i don't like what im hearing recently, and Manny Pacquiao putting on alot of weight since he was 17 isn't something out of the ordinary either.

As i've said many times im 19 and when i was 16 i was pretty skinny 140, but with lifting weights and eating alot more, i actually got up to 180s. Now i've lost a little weight cutting im a perfect size at 6'1 178 pounds.

Now obviously i was pretty skinny and cause im alot bigger than Manny Pacquiao, naturally its easier for me to put on the weight but Manny Pacquiao weight wise where he is now, with all his trainers, dietitians, getting him there is pretty normal IMO.

I haven't got anything bad to say about Manny Pacquiao, all i'll say if you can't move up enough in weight to fight Welterweights. Don't fight em end of theres plenty of fights i'd love him to take between 135-140.

[Gandalf]

It's just wrong and I don't like it.

Cotto struggled like death to make 140 all those years ago and all this time later I am sure it would be just as hard to make 143. The whole thing reeks of opportunism and Manny trying to make the biggest and easiest money possible by draining the WW's and having them fight at a weight which will hinder their performances.

I keep repeating myself, but if this is the only way to make the fight then I really am not all that interested in it. Why can Manny not just allow his opponent those two kg's and allow us to see a fight in which he is truly tested against a fighter who is at his best?

I would rather he stayed at 140 and cleared up rather than keep having this charade anytime a fight is discussed with a WW.

[TheMacMagician]

Pac is becoming just as bad as Floyd is... he wants a marguee fight against a big name... just not one who has an advantage over him... his fans will knock Floyd for trying to reduce the adversity he is up against whilst earning as much as he can but they don't see how similar what Pac is doing is.

De La Hoya ended up coming in at 145 or something... Why can he cope with that, but not a 145 Cotto? weight isn't the issue here... the drain of boiling down is.

If this turns out to be true then it's because he knows that because Cotto is smaller than ODLH he would find it much easier to make that weight... and therfore wouldn't be as drained.

Say what you want about Floyd, but he never tried draining a fighter down before.

Hatton was at 147 before and wanted a shot at the Liner Welterweight Championship and the $$$$$$$$$ a Floyd fight brought

JMM called out Floyd and wants to be the one to take that 0 off his record

Floyd fought a healthy full 154 version of Delahoya whilst giving him every advantage, gloves, ring size etc. Why cant Pac fight Mosely or Cotto under those same conditions?

Hatton was the financial draw here lets be truthful about that one. He may not have been the better fighter but PBF certainly doesn't rake in the PPVs. And, how was floyd Linear Welterweight Champ. Who he buy that from, as he certainly didn't win it, not from Baldomir, Gatti or Sharmba Mitchell thats for sure......

[HattonTheHammer]

Pac is becoming just as bad as Floyd is... he wants a marguee fight against a big name... just not one who has an advantage over him... his fans will knock Floyd for trying to reduce the adversity he is up against whilst earning as much as he can but they don't see how similar what Pac is doing is.

De La Hoya ended up coming in at 145 or something... Why can he cope with that, but not a 145 Cotto? weight isn't the issue here... the drain of boiling down is.

If this turns out to be true then it's because he knows that because Cotto is smaller than ODLH he would find it much easier to make that weight... and therfore wouldn't be as drained.

Say what you want about Floyd, but he never tried draining a fighter down before.

Hatton was at 147 before and wanted a shot at the Liner Welterweight Championship and the $$$$$$$$$ a Floyd fight brought

JMM called out Floyd and wants to be the one to take that 0 off his record

Floyd fought a healthy full 154 version of Delahoya whilst giving him every advantage, gloves, ring size etc. Why cant Pac fight Mosely or Cotto under those same conditions?

Hatton was the financial draw here lets be truthful about that one. He may not have been the better fighter but PBF certainly doesn't rake in the PPVs. And, how was floyd Linear Welterweight Champ. Who he buy that from, as he certainly didn't win it, not from Baldomir, Gatti or Sharmba Mitchell thats for sure......

dunno about that

you take what they both did in the previous fight before that one. floyd ranked up easily a million in PPV. Hattons wasnt even a PPV event was it?

In terms of fan activeness then hatton is the most marketable fighter of the last 10-15 years. Where the financial side of things are concerned however the pulling power for that particular contest was mayweather

[Rican]

I don't think 145 is evening the playing field, however, I think its at least doable for Cotto. Anything under & I think Pac loses a lot of credit he would otherwise get. However, a lot of the blame would go to Cotto for accepting it if he can't do it

By wanting a catch weight, it is clear that Manny doubts his success against Cotto at 147. But Manny clearly sees the benefit of fighting Cotto at any weight, and the benefit is another large payday. As for Cotto, I don't blame him much if he accepts to fight at 143 and then does not make it/loses and if he takes a 30-70 split. The reason is that this fight for him is like an investment. Manny is the hottest thing in boxing right now and all I hear is that Manny is going to win this one mainly because he's Manny and mainly because Cotto has been "damaged" recently. A win against Manny will silence most of the doubters that always seem to be around and also set him up for a fight against Mayweather, that is if Mayweather dares step in the ring against Cotto. Chances are, Floyd will want to step in with Manny instead of Cotto, even if Manny loses.